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Kingruv · 08-12-2009, 07:41 PM

2 cents worth, observations and questions (not necessarily in that order)

Since it seems like a lot has been indulged here, sorry I can't pass on this.

1.I think it is fair to say the answer to the original question is: None
2.Basically, anyone able to carry a handgun in Canada isn't going to be in big bear country.
3.Anyone in such an area, even flying over the bush is going to carry a rifle if possible.
So Strange, are you just jerking our collective chains to get us barking?

It makes me think of something that was supposed to be serious, I found absurd when I saw it.
Years ago (50's and early 60's) the then world famous archer, Howard Hill, made a few movies about big game hunting with a traditional longbow.
A few of the highlights include:
A cameraman getting mauled by a large lion after Howard put 3 shafts into him.
Getting a Cape buffalo rather upset and on the rampage.
Going from being the hunter to becoming the prey after planting several choice shafts into a mother polar bear in an icefield. (it seems like a few of them got bloody besides the bear) Look it up for a hoot.

Granted all the above could and probably has been killed by arrows over the past several millenia.
BUT, during all that time guys were figuring out ways, better, faster and surer ways to kill. Do it farther or do it closer.
Guess work, trial and error, trying and dying, success and failure, all to improve killing without getting killed.
May I pontificate?
Between trying and dying something grand was learned, little sharp sticks worked pretty good on small to medium sized critters that were bad for running away.
The atlatl helped and the bow was even better.
But WHOA, that big hog can sure get mad when I get arrows in him. Maybe my big knife on a stick since he CAN outrun me.

All in good fun Strange. Just a question though, after all these years of Alaskan hunters using big caliber guns to kill large bears, why do you think they would carry the extra “Metal” if they could have just as easily done so with small or medium caliber guns?
Some carry very large caliber (.44 Magnum +) handguns as backup, but I don't think unless they are seriously persuaded of their own superiority they are going to take the chance of becoming a meal rather than getting the bearskin rug.
Can the small ones do it? It's possible.
If not, how fast can you run? Most of us would rather have the margin against the bears advantages.
Live and learn or die and forget about it.

Question 2
What type of thigh holster can I get for a Tavor?

If I were looking for that type, I think Alexander Arms' Beowulf would be a bit closer to effective on ursine anatomy.
If I were going in that area, I would look for something more rugged though.

08-12-2009, 07:41 PM	#44 (permalink)
Kingruv Upright Location: NoVa	2 cents worth, observations and questions (not necessarily in that order) Since it seems like a lot has been indulged here, sorry I can't pass on this. 1.I think it is fair to say the answer to the original question is: None 2.Basically, anyone able to carry a handgun in Canada isn't going to be in big bear country. 3.Anyone in such an area, even flying over the bush is going to carry a rifle if possible. So Strange, are you just jerking our collective chains to get us barking? It makes me think of something that was supposed to be serious, I found absurd when I saw it. Years ago (50's and early 60's) the then world famous archer, Howard Hill, made a few movies about big game hunting with a traditional longbow. A few of the highlights include: A cameraman getting mauled by a large lion after Howard put 3 shafts into him. Getting a Cape buffalo rather upset and on the rampage. Going from being the hunter to becoming the prey after planting several choice shafts into a mother polar bear in an icefield. (it seems like a few of them got bloody besides the bear) Look it up for a hoot. Granted all the above could and probably has been killed by arrows over the past several millenia. BUT, during all that time guys were figuring out ways, better, faster and surer ways to kill. Do it farther or do it closer. Guess work, trial and error, trying and dying, success and failure, all to improve killing without getting killed. May I pontificate? Between trying and dying something grand was learned, little sharp sticks worked pretty good on small to medium sized critters that were bad for running away. The atlatl helped and the bow was even better. But WHOA, that big hog can sure get mad when I get arrows in him. Maybe my big knife on a stick since he CAN outrun me. All in good fun Strange. Just a question though, after all these years of Alaskan hunters using big caliber guns to kill large bears, why do you think they would carry the extra “Metal” if they could have just as easily done so with small or medium caliber guns? Some carry very large caliber (.44 Magnum +) handguns as backup, but I don't think unless they are seriously persuaded of their own superiority they are going to take the chance of becoming a meal rather than getting the bearskin rug. Can the small ones do it? It's possible. If not, how fast can you run? Most of us would rather have the margin against the bears advantages. Live and learn or die and forget about it. Question 2 What type of thigh holster can I get for a Tavor? If I were looking for that type, I think Alexander Arms' Beowulf would be a bit closer to effective on ursine anatomy. If I were going in that area, I would look for something more rugged though.