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Originally Posted by aceventura3
I thought Pelosi was the first to refer to people at these town hall meetings as people carrying signs with swastikas. And even if Rush and Palin are fanning hate, why assume they are responsible for the expression coming from these meetings. Again, you illustrate a dismissive attitude and insult honest people who have real concerns. This is about the 5th or 6th time I have made this point. I am not shouting, but at some point even I would get so frustrated that I would feel the need to scream, why don't you listen?
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First time I heard the Nazi comparison was August 6 when Rush said "Adolf Hitler, like Barack Obama, also ruled by dictate" Then he went on to say stuff like Obama's logo looks like a Nazi symbol and other Nazi comparisons. Then a couple days ago Pelosi pointed out that people were showing up to these town halls with swastikas... because people were showing up with swastikas.
So Rush and Palin say untrue things, like the death panel comment, and it's completely unreasonable for me to think that at least some of these people are reacting to the hate speech and lies spread by these two?
I have no problem with people who have honest concerns, I'm not sure how pointing out these facts insult them. But if your honest concern comes from bull shit information...
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Perhaps there is a lesson for Obama and members of Congress? Care to share what you think they might want to take from our current situation regarding the health care debate, or it all some one else's problem?
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The current debate really hasn't even been a debate. Anytime someone tries to discuss this issues people starting screaming the talking points that have been put out by the right. Several think tanks and lobbying groups have put out bullet point on how to disrupt the town halls. "Make sure you get there early so you can sit up front, make lots of noise, yell if you have to be heard etc..." That's not a debate, that's a bunch of adults acting like children.
I think the strategy is to disrupt and cause chaos so nothing gets passed, that's their goal... maintain the status quo.
No, I don't think it's someone else's problem. I do think having a logical, honest and mature debate would be a good start in resolving this issue. Personally with rising co-pays and premiums I don't think the status quo is a viable option. Then only real benefactor is the health care industry.