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Originally Posted by Tully Mars
I agree they have to do with the health care system in the US. Which is the what the town hall meetings and this thread are about.
If health insurance companies, big pharma et el hadn't spent the better part of the last three decades buying off elected officials and convincing people that national health care is evil and socialism then these folks would have likely been covered. Had they been covered they likely would have received care. To say these events are solely the responsibility of hospitals is clearly not looking at the big picture.
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Again I agree that the system is flawed. These Hospitals that are refusing care to people are breaking the law plain and simple. No one can be turned away. Primary Care Physicians is a different story and needs to be addressed admittedly.
What worries me the most is that if there is nationalized health care, I might loose my job. I don't want to loose my job, so, I am hoping for a hybrid system. I've already lost three Accounts this week because of all the uncertainty with the Reform proposals. Company decision makers are reluctant to move forward with new plans until the issue is resolved, which is leaving me standing there shaking my head. I don't even sell health insurance, I sell supplemental insurance, mainly Income Protection(short term disability).
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Originally Posted by roachboy
this is false.
there's a ton of data available that demonstrates the opposite--the organization of hospitals--and treatments--are profoundly influenced by the insurance regime they work inside of. not in *every* way of course, but in many ways, particularly in the degrees of bureaucracy and, more importantly, it's orientation. see the post on the previous page i made.
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I do agree that hospital and insurance companies but heads, but the fact of the matter is these hospitals broke the law when they refused treatment to patients. Every hospital in the country has signs posted "patients bill of rights" one such right is the right to treatment regardless of insurance. Yes if you don't have insurance you will be billed, and you most likely can't afford the bill, but the issue in question is that the hospitals refused treatment not the insurance company