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Old 08-12-2009, 12:03 PM   #119 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Or what if millions of Americans can't afford access to even basic healthcare?
Isn't that different than saying our health care system is inferior? I think addressing access is one question, delivering the best health care in the world is a different one. I agree that everyone in this country does not have equal access to health care. Some of it is a simple matter of education. Prenatal care for example, this can make a big difference in infant health and mortality, but low income, young, single mothers often do not take advantage of the care available to them.

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What if millions of Americans are afraid to go to the doctor because of the expense involved?
I agree this is a problem also. I don't like the fact that senior citizens often have to make a choice between prescription drugs and food. I think we can fix these problems.

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I can play this game too.

Healthcare is not the answer to all social ills, and suggesting it is is misdirection, plain and simple.

As someone who lives in a country with universal healthcare, the idea of arguing against it is bizarre. It's like arguing that fire departments should be private, or education. This is a basic public service.
The question comes down to what happens given limited resources, who makes the decision on how those resources get allocated. If government is clear and honest about this, I could support government controlled health care. My fear centers around distrust, if Obama or whoever could alleviate this fear they could win my support.

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Or ace and cimarron attempts to perpetuate the myth at the heart of conservative rhetoric that the current WH/Congressional proposals for universal coverage, with a public option (or a public/private cooperative exchange), is comparable to European (the socialist boogeymen) type single payer systems.

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repeat after me.....universal coverage is not the same as single payer.
If you have read what I have written on this subject you would know what my concerns are. I have no problem with universal coverage, in fact I would mandate coverage and provide single payer coverage to every child born in this country. I also, think a single payer plan could work. I think health care requires government involvement and just like there is a single payer for national defense, I think there could be a single payer for health care with supplemental options giving people choice to enhance coverage.
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