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Originally Posted by filtherton
I'm amazed that some folks are so quick to believe uncited statistics that support their preconceived notions whilst decrying the deceptive use of statistics that don't support preconceived notions.
Like refuting the "desperate lies" of HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius by citing completely irrelevant facts. If her lies were so desperate, one would expect them to be easily refuted with information that actually refutes them.
Or quoting unattributed stats "poll after poll" about how much more satisfied Americans are than their socialist peers. If these polls are so damning, why not link to their results or mention their names?
Or relying on the results of an unnamed, possibly unpublished study as explained by a doctor who may or may not have an axe to grind. Does his study have a name; is it findable? Did he do the study by himself? Was it performed at the behest of the think tank he works for, or Stanford Medical Center?
All of the claims made in your link could be true, but you'd have to be either very naive or very unconcerned with basing your opinions on verifiable data to accept them at face value.
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There is a pattern, and it is not clear what your expectations are when factual information is given within the presentation of an opinion. It is easy to dismiss an opinion by saying something like they quoted unattributed stats, while ignoring the key point. It is a bit more of a challenge to actually respond with specifics to dispute the information provided. Some of us who have formed our views have already done the work, and don't have the patience to provide everybody else with a dissertation, in most cases you get the abstract. Sometimes you gotta do your own homework.
The fact is that Sebelius and others have been saying that we spend more on health care than other nations and we get inferior results. We spend more on health care for many reasons and to say we get inferior results (compared to what, and on what standard do they base the comparison is never given) , is misleading at best. In my view and in the view of many it is a lie. People are distrustful of politicians because of stuff like this. People distrust the media because they do not question stuff like this coming from Obama and his team.