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Nisses · 08-12-2009, 01:52 AM

I've read most of your threads so far.
I know alot of people are not happy in the jobs they have.
I agree that the current system is not the best way (far from it)

Unfortunately, by definition, these jobs that require specific training, would happen at university. But not everybody would actually *want* to teach this. What would you do when positions start dropping left and right because of no interested parties? Where would the people that want to learn this go then?

Would they go to another place, some place different? And what if in that place, the only 2 teachers already have their own share of apprentices? Does the teacher have to take on extra apprentices?
And if so, how is he ever gonna get any work done? Especially with several apprentices, who all require a totally different approach, since they're all free spirits? One you have to lead, the other you have to merely point to things, the other you have to discuss with to make him see the reason, while the 4th one only requires that he has a bit of silence to think things through?

Would you somehow have to work on a general way of instructing them? Perhaps a set path that you adjust a bit for each and every one? And eventually when a printing press is available, for ease (and time-saving) you have the printer make you copies of this path so that your apprentices can spend more time imitating you and less taking notes (because we can't all just memorize everything).

For arts/crafts types of jobs, that a tribes/village culture has need of, your system sounds workable.
For other jobs, that are "newer" it does not.

08-12-2009, 01:52 AM	#11 (permalink)
Nisses Shade Location: Belgium	I've read most of your threads so far. I know alot of people are not happy in the jobs they have. I agree that the current system is not the best way (far from it) Unfortunately, by definition, these jobs that require specific training, would happen at university. But not everybody would actually want to teach this. What would you do when positions start dropping left and right because of no interested parties? Where would the people that want to learn this go then? Would they go to another place, some place different? And what if in that place, the only 2 teachers already have their own share of apprentices? Does the teacher have to take on extra apprentices? And if so, how is he ever gonna get any work done? Especially with several apprentices, who all require a totally different approach, since they're all free spirits? One you have to lead, the other you have to merely point to things, the other you have to discuss with to make him see the reason, while the 4th one only requires that he has a bit of silence to think things through? Would you somehow have to work on a general way of instructing them? Perhaps a set path that you adjust a bit for each and every one? And eventually when a printing press is available, for ease (and time-saving) you have the printer make you copies of this path so that your apprentices can spend more time imitating you and less taking notes (because we can't all just memorize everything). For arts/crafts types of jobs, that a tribes/village culture has need of, your system sounds workable. For other jobs, that are "newer" it does not. __________________ Moderation should be moderately moderated.