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Old 08-11-2009, 12:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan View Post
DC; have you read the bill? I've only recently managed to find a full copy (H.R. 3200: America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)), but the fact is that at least some of the "lies" you've posted appear to be either contained within the bill (rationing, Gov' bureaucratic control, etc) or will be required by its' mandate.

No, it isn't a single-payer system. Yes, DMV-type drones will be empowered to make decisions regarding care. Mrs. Palin was RIGHT, because that's what -all- State rationing of healthcare comes down to; a cost/benefit analysis with regards to a person's usefulness to The Collective. When a person would cost more to fix than they would bring into the State through taxes, fines, fees...they don't get fixed, or at best become a lower priority. Ask a few vets who've cycled through Walter Reed Army Medical Centre about how that dance goes; I can put you in touch with a Guadalcanal "Mud Marine" who's been denied treatment by the VA because of his age, likewise a Vietnam-era Army grunt with a bullet in his hip and lungs full of Agent Orange who's having to shell out 100% of his costs himself because one of the pencil-pushers whom you insist don't/won't exist arbitrarily decided that his injuries, sustained in service to his country, didn't merit the public nickle.
I have ready fairly detailed summaries of the major House bill and one Senate bill.

The proposals under consideration are for universal care..not single payer.

There is no more rationing than currently exists by insurance companies approving or denying some treatments.

There is no plan for the government to collect more personal medical information than already collected.

And....there are no death panels.


In effect, Palin's characterization is complete bullshit and fear mongering.

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Sen Johnny Isakson, a conservative Republican from Georgia debunks Palins's death panel bullshit:
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ISAKSON: I have no idea. I understand — and you have to check this out — I just had a phone call where someone said Sarah Palin’s web site had talked about the House bill having death panels on it where people would be euthanized. How someone could take an end of life directive or a living will as that is nuts. You’re putting the authority in the individual rather than the government. I don’t know how that got so mixed up. [...]

It empowers you to be able to make decisions at a difficult time rather than having the government making them for you.

Is the Government Going to Euthanize your Grandmother?
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