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Old 08-11-2009, 09:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
The_Dunedan
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anyone can play this game:
conservatives=victims. everyone else=Persecutor.
conservative community organization, whatever that means: good. every other form: bad.
militia group forms of organization=good. unions=bad.

how about we try to actually discuss the question rather than cutting directly to repeating the problem with the town hall format in the present sit
Believe it or not, RB, that's precisely the point I was attempting to make; or part of it, rather. The party which elected a "Community Organizer" president (D)does not get to gripe about "community organization" in opposition to their programme, and the party which legitmated the use of repressive force in such contexts (R) can't bitch too much about the Union thugs.

Having never voted for a Demopublican or a Republicrat, and being opposed to -all- such violence, I have no difficulty denouncing both sides even while I agree with the objections raised by the one and the "diagnostic" info presented by the other.

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When the entire point of the opposition "community organizing" is to disrupt and shout down any constructive dialog then yes it is bad.
Kindy remind the SEIU folks, they seem to have gotten the notion that while shouting is impermissible, fisticuffs are perfectly fine. Furthermore, I do not recall reading anything in regards to manners, volume, or "constructive dialogue" in the 1st Amendment.

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Freedom of speech only goes so far as to not impede on other people's freedom of speech and this is exactly what the disruptors are doing.
Again, someone please make sure the SEIU gets this memo. Furthermore, I find it difficult to label them as "disruptive" when their primary demand seems to be that the Congresscritter in question actually try -reading- a bill before voting on it or trying to sell it. Yes, the hypocrisy of people who "A-OKed" the USA PATRIOT act (which was -also- passed before being read) but are bitching about this now disgusts me.
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