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Old 08-10-2009, 05:33 PM   #519 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aceventura3 View Post
You have to be kidding. The Chicago public school system is generally a failure and has been for decades. This is common knowledge. Obama did not send his children to Chicago Public Schools. The Chicago school system is administratively top heavy, union dominated, and has an above acceptable level of incompetent teachers. Certainly there are some good schools and many successes, but on a whole anyone with real choice would not choose to send a child they love to a Chicago Public school. If you don't accept that, I suggest going to Chicago and spend a day talking to students, parents, concerned citizens, and those who moved out of the city because of the schools. I understand why we can not have a real serious discussion, we seem to exist in alternative realities. This is a recurring theme.
Yes, and? You're proving my point. The fact that Chicago Public Schools may or may not suck is irrelevant. You argued that Obama's choice for Secretary of Education, Arne Duncan,a was a bad choice because he had done nothing to improve the Chicago Public School System while he was in charge of it. The basis of your lack of faith in his efforts to improve the school system? That none of your friends would send their kids to a Chicago Public School and that Chicago Public Schools are poorly rated.

Nevermind that Chicago is notoriously corrupt or that even noncorrupt teachers unions are notorious cock-blockers when it comes to any sort of systematic change that doesn't preserve or enhance the slice of power they've managed to carve out for themselves. Nevermind that some test scores have improved, or that he (Arne Duncan) supports merit-based pay. Nope. You know some people who wouldn't send their kids to a Chicago Public School so clearly Arne Duncan sucks and hasn't done anything to improve Chicago Public Schools. Chicago Schools are bad right now, so Arne Duncan has never done anything to improve them.
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