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Old 08-04-2009, 08:51 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by sapiens View Post
I don't have a source other than NPR, but my impression is that most people who are taking advantage of the program are buying cars that are very near the minimum mpg improvement required. If the goal of the program is environmental, it will take a long time to recoup the "carbon footprints" of all these new cars.
If they are getting $4,500 and buying a car then they are gaining at least 10 mpg. Since the car traded in had to get less than 18 mpg that means they increased the fuel economy by over 50%.

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Plus, many of the cars and trucks eligible don't meet mpg standards that will become effective in a couple of years.
Why should a car manufactured today have to meet a standard that isn't in effect yet? Why is that an issue?

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Hey, but all of that is offset by a mere 2 MPG improvement. What a GRAND program, just what I would expect from the federal government.
A 2 mpg improvement from 15 mpg is 13%. Conservatives have screamed bloody murder over mandates for similar fuel economy gains.

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Also what you see at the few town halls is not indicative of how the entire population feels. In fact what you are seeing at a few town halls is an organized effort to make it look like there is a strong public opposition. The plans from these organizations were leaked and it gave specific instructions how to make it look like there is a strong opposition to health care reform.
Exactly. They are making a lot of noise but the fact is that there aren't that many.

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Bought and paid for by corporate lobbyists. This isn't some sort of grass-roots campaign it is a corporate manipulation of the people. The GOP is up to their usual scare tactics routine. Fear, outrage, and intimidation. That's all the GOP has had since 9/11.
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