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Originally Posted by Rekna
Taxation without representation....
Wow I didn't realize our government wasn't elected! Holy crap this is a major scandal! We aren't being represented because we didn't get to vote for these guys! How in the hell did they put memories into my head, i swear that I remember voting... I guess they can put memories into our heads now. I better go get a tinfoil hat to make sure the memory waves don't go into my head again.
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That really depends on what you think a Democratic Republic is. If the purpose of the representatives is to represent the will of their constituents, then we have taxation without representation because the will of the people (as a majority) has been against every one of these programs. However, any opposing view in the Tilted Politics forum gets a "tinfoil hat", so you guys just keep telling each other how much smarter you are than everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
not according to the Constitution
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I don't suppose you see the irony in bringing up the Constitution as a defence of an unconstitutional entitlement program?
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Originally Posted by kutulu
Did you have the same outrage back in 2002-ish when Bush gave out massive incentives business to buy gigantic SUVs?
Your post is made up of nonsensical talking points. It isn't as if the only cars eligible for the program are hybrids and smart cars. For a passenger car all that is needed is that teh consumer buys a car with a minimum combined 22 mpg that nets a 4 mpg gain over the old vehicle. For SUVs and trucks you only need to add 2 mpg and get a new one that gets better than 18 mpg.
If the car you bring in qualifies for the program, just about any car on the market can be purchased. Your comment that the cars people would have to buy are unwanted is pretty much bullshit.
The only thing that you are correct about is that the program is more about removing gas guzzlers from service than economic stimulus. Trade-ins are scrapped and as a result, the customer doesn't get a trade-in credit other than what the program provides.
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There are enough people on facebook. Maybe instead of electing officials we can just legislate via facebook polls.
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Right. And I suppose it's a grand idea that all of these cars are needlessly destroyed rather than giving them to people who don't have cars so that those people could have more freedoms and employment options. Not to mention the massive amounts of energy used to needlessly destroy them and the massive amounts of energy used to create the new car. Then there is the personal debt the buyer incurs, the risk the bank incurs, the debt the government incurs...
Hey, but all of that is offset by a mere 2 MPG improvement. What a GRAND program, just what I would expect from the federal government.