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Old 08-03-2009, 08:17 AM   #15 (permalink)
pan6467
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Originally Posted by Anormalguy View Post
While I sincerely admire your enthusiasm for helping the addicted and wish you the very best, I do hope that you've done all (and I mean all) of your research. Bypassing government funding and traditional loans doesn't mean that you won't be required to deal many levels of bureaucracy.

One area of concern that comes to mind is what stage of recovery will the folks be in when you take them in?
In the state of Ohio all that is required is, that like, any rental property the property be zoned properly (multi family, etc) and to meet safety codes, which it does.

So long as I do not advertise nor consider myself "treatment" but just a sober house, I require no other license.

Basically, what it boils down to is I will be considered a rooming house with rules. Such as required 12 step meeting attendance, house meetings maintaining a clean and sober environment and so on.

Now, I can request that they attend off property counseling sessions and so on, so long as they pay for the separate service and it is not a requirement to their housing.

It is pretty much an unregulated business in Ohio and may very well be one of the very few.

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Originally Posted by Blue Fish View Post
I agree that this is a great idea. I could use a place like this. BUT, insurance? Are you only taking in recovered addicts? If anyone has any form of medical problem in your house you will have to face the reality of bills/parents/siblings/sig others/lawyers/government or any other people that will sue you. I wish you well but the USA might not be the best place to do this. Maybe focus your energy into something like the Peace Core or any other similar organizations.
If I were a "treatment" facility this could come into play. As I will be just a rooming house with rules, it'd be like getting sick in your apartment complex. Can you sue the apartment complex because you relapsed and did not obey the rules of the complex? Nope.

I will in no way be considered a medical treatment facility.

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Originally Posted by thingstodo View Post
Congrats!

I do agree with the previous three posters. There are still many regulations and legal considerations, not to mention the medical aspect. You will also need professsional connections to shrinks and rehab centers for some of your customer base as well as hiring additional staff and everything that goes with that. Plus an accountant because you just won't have time for everything.
As I have been in the profession I have made many contacts who would be willing to work with the residents at a lower cost, again I can in no way mandate this to the residents.

There is a room on the first floor for a manager's office and sleeping quarters. He'd stay rent free and take care of the property and residents while I was not there.

In the women's house there is a similar area, not as nice but for a resident manager getting free rent it wouldn't be bad.

And yes, I agree about getting a good accountant.
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