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essendoubleop · 07-29-2009, 04:46 PM

Wow, talk about walking into a beehive; though, I am glad we're garnering a lot of discussion about the scoring now rather than later. With all the talk about the scoring settings, I'm expecting nobody to be griping about it come September. Speak your grievance now while we can still do something about it. My goal is to address the concerns of every owner and to find the right settings for this league that can be agreed upon by the most owners.

Notes:
1) Jetee: I think you are right about the defensive scoring probably needing to be raised higher. Take a look at the top 25 projected defenses scoring from last year compared to the top 25 projected quarterbacks scoring. The defenses scored roughly half of what the quarterbacks scored. The standard deviation is also much lower.

2)DDDave: That's a good point. There is definitely a few drawbacks to having an "original" scoring system. However, it could also be argued that those who have more of a history with Yahoo leagues will have an advantage over others. I've been playing Yahoo leagues (and others) for years and I have noticed a few trends that crop up in the winners (mainly top-shelf quarterbacks winning leagues, take a look at the differences between the top quarterbacks in scoring). There really is no way around it besides familiarizing yourself with the projected scoring "fan points" which can be found by clicking on the "PLAYERS" tab at the league home page and looking at the "fan points" column on the far right side. Notice which statistical categories are important to that position and draft based on their projected stats. Along those lines...

3) Return men. If you look at the return yardage points, you'll see a few running backs and receivers that are higher up than in other leagues. For instance, Steve Breaston's 3 TDs and 900+ return yards netted him 213 points compared to Donald Driver (148 points) even though they had comparable receiving numbers. Do you guys think this places too much of an added bonus to return game? Or do you think it will help expand the available scorers in a 16-team deep league where players like Johnnie Lee Higgins is a viable option? I would certainly be open to at least toning it down a bit.

4) Your point about the teams being unable to compete with the 16th ranked QB is a valid one. That's a good reason why balancing the positions is so important. Even if you get stuck with Chad Pennington, you can still win with a couple sure-fire RBs and a few sleepers at other positions. 16 teams (almost) ensures that every team will have two viable options to start at QB, or to make a trade if necessary. It's really the max size for a fantasy league.

5) Mister Coaster: You're right. The defense category still needs adjusting. Certainly, the points awarded for allowing points should be increased further. Do you suggest toning down the points awarded for a defensive TD as well? I would suggest accounting for YARDAGE allowed as well, but Yahoo doesn't list that as a possible statistical category.

6) I'M pretty firmly against having a roster position for kickers. But if enough owners are for it, we can add them too. I just think that they are too random to project and shouldn't be the deciding factor in close games. They're always drafted in the final round and could be another factor in the randomness of the draft order giving the final team the worst kicker (though they probably won't end up ranked in their slot anyways).

6) Also, the helmets have got to go. Put some interesting pictures up. Use it to create rivalries! One cool addition this year is rivalry week. With 16 teams playing 13 regular season games, we have to use unbalanced schedules which creates the opportunity for creating rivalries.

7) Playoffs look good to everybody? Half the league makes the playoffs, no bye-weeks. It would be cool to have a climbing ladder too but Yahoo doesn't allow for that.

24 DAYS LEFT!!!
(AND ONE SPOT AVAILABLE)

07-29-2009, 04:46 PM	#59 (permalink)
essendoubleop Psycho	Wow, talk about walking into a beehive; though, I am glad we're garnering a lot of discussion about the scoring now rather than later. With all the talk about the scoring settings, I'm expecting nobody to be griping about it come September. Speak your grievance now while we can still do something about it. My goal is to address the concerns of every owner and to find the right settings for this league that can be agreed upon by the most owners. Notes: 1) Jetee: I think you are right about the defensive scoring probably needing to be raised higher. Take a look at the top 25 projected defenses scoring from last year compared to the top 25 projected quarterbacks scoring. The defenses scored roughly half of what the quarterbacks scored. The standard deviation is also much lower. 2)DDDave: That's a good point. There is definitely a few drawbacks to having an "original" scoring system. However, it could also be argued that those who have more of a history with Yahoo leagues will have an advantage over others. I've been playing Yahoo leagues (and others) for years and I have noticed a few trends that crop up in the winners (mainly top-shelf quarterbacks winning leagues, take a look at the differences between the top quarterbacks in scoring). There really is no way around it besides familiarizing yourself with the projected scoring "fan points" which can be found by clicking on the "PLAYERS" tab at the league home page and looking at the "fan points" column on the far right side. Notice which statistical categories are important to that position and draft based on their projected stats. Along those lines... 3) Return men. If you look at the return yardage points, you'll see a few running backs and receivers that are higher up than in other leagues. For instance, Steve Breaston's 3 TDs and 900+ return yards netted him 213 points compared to Donald Driver (148 points) even though they had comparable receiving numbers. Do you guys think this places too much of an added bonus to return game? Or do you think it will help expand the available scorers in a 16-team deep league where players like Johnnie Lee Higgins is a viable option? I would certainly be open to at least toning it down a bit. 4) Your point about the teams being unable to compete with the 16th ranked QB is a valid one. That's a good reason why balancing the positions is so important. Even if you get stuck with Chad Pennington, you can still win with a couple sure-fire RBs and a few sleepers at other positions. 16 teams (almost) ensures that every team will have two viable options to start at QB, or to make a trade if necessary. It's really the max size for a fantasy league. 5) Mister Coaster: You're right. The defense category still needs adjusting. Certainly, the points awarded for allowing points should be increased further. Do you suggest toning down the points awarded for a defensive TD as well? I would suggest accounting for YARDAGE allowed as well, but Yahoo doesn't list that as a possible statistical category. 6) I'M pretty firmly against having a roster position for kickers. But if enough owners are for it, we can add them too. I just think that they are too random to project and shouldn't be the deciding factor in close games. They're always drafted in the final round and could be another factor in the randomness of the draft order giving the final team the worst kicker (though they probably won't end up ranked in their slot anyways). 6) Also, the helmets have got to go. Put some interesting pictures up. Use it to create rivalries! One cool addition this year is rivalry week. With 16 teams playing 13 regular season games, we have to use unbalanced schedules which creates the opportunity for creating rivalries. 7) Playoffs look good to everybody? Half the league makes the playoffs, no bye-weeks. It would be cool to have a climbing ladder too but Yahoo doesn't allow for that. 24 DAYS LEFT!!! (AND ONE SPOT AVAILABLE)