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Originally Posted by guccilvr
GG:
the thing about your statement is that it's impossible to know what's going to happen in the future. Foxconn could have had a perfect record as well as a great price point for Apple. They had no idea an employee was going to commit suicide and be linked with them. If the man was beaten and then threatened, there was still no way for Apple to know this was going to happen unless a track record existed.
I'm an apple fan, but this really has nothing to do with Apple, I think it falls soley on Foxconn and it's operations and if there was anything done wrong. If no wrong doing occurred, then both companies are not at fault and business will continue as usual. China and Japan have pretty high suicide rates, so really this could be nothing more than just putting a well known American company in the article to ensure the paper gets some hits.
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I agree with everything guccilvr says, in a world were information is readily available at our fingertips the second it happens, we still don't know EVERYTHING. Did Apple know about this kind of incidents? Most likely not (Tho if you have ever had to talk to Apple's Icare support or went to an Apple Store to get support, I think they know something about human torture). Will they stop doing business with Foxconn? Again, most likely not. We are talking about two major multinational corporations just quitting business together while in the process of developing a mutli-billion dollar product, that does not happen overnight. It will all depend on the press, if it gets lost in the vortex that we call the media, then apple won't care (externally). If it gets alot of press and bad press at that, Apple will do something.
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Originally Posted by guccilvr
as far as the whole "don't deal with nations who have bad track records thing.. well that's pretty much impossible.
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Governments do bad things to people, every single one of them. Some more than others. There is no way around that.
Even on a local level, I'm not going to stop doing business with owners with shady pasts. Right across the street I have one of the BEST pizza joints in the area, I eat there as much as I can. Their pizza and subs are to DIE for. I know for a fact that the two co-owners of the company have ties with the NY Italian Mob. I know the co-owner who works at the pizza shop where I eat at has done beatdowns/hits for the mob in his younger days. I've talked to him about it. I am scared of that man. Will I stop doing business with him because I know he use to be a solider in the mob? Hell no. The pizza is to good. I look at this situation in the same light, I know they have done or still could be doing, bad things to people. That's not going to stop me from getting a pizza from them. Call me inhuman, but I just see that's how business works.
As for Foxconn, I can't stop doing business with them, indirectly as it is. Unless I have a damn good reason (other than this article) my boss will not stop buying products with foxconn chips on them. He does not and will not care about what goes on in China. He knows that foxconn makes good Motherboards/chipsets and that's all he cares about.