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Originally Posted by roachboy
... you had a series of statements issued by the administration and a series of demonstrations that those statements were false. the problem is the evaluation of these statements--how do you do it? what factors shape that? one way of thinking about that would be to analyze, to the extent that one can, the projections as to the world that each series of statements triggered. another would be to ask about relations toward these statements---that's the route this study went in. what constitutes compelling evidence? what constitutes a convincing argument? what elements or assumptions get introduced that shape these judgments? to what extent can these factors be grouped? once you group them, how to you evaluate that grouping?
like that.
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The problem is in the opening of the quote above. Your assumption is that there was a series of demonstrations that statements were false. You can not legitimately go any further unless there is agreement on the "demonstrations".
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Originally Posted by Willravel
What do you mean you don't know if homosexuality is real? Do you think everyone is playing a joke on you? Some men are attracted to other men sexually. Some women are attracted to other women sexually. These states can be observed and can be verified via observation. It's not unreal or in some Schrodinger state of real/unreal simply because you've not witnessed or experienced it. There's a point at which perception becomes so abstract that communication breaks down. You're there.
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Let's take a different approach.
How is the reality of the color blue defined to a man who is color blind and has been from birth? You can not. The man who is color blind has to accept on faith the alternate reality that a color known as blue exists.
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I'm not talking about opinion, I'm talking about fact. It's your opinion that Iraq was a threat to the US. It's not an opinion but rather verifiable fact that the administration fabricated the story about Saddam seeking yellowcake in Africa. It's not subjective, but objectively verifiable.
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The concept of threat is subjective. Each person has their own threshold for what they would deem a threat.
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Not understanding something doesn't mean it's not real. I don't understand precisely how the universe came into being, but here we are.
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Some things not understood require faith.