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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Whoever this Gina woman is, I think I speak for 99% of the population to say that it is absolutely disgusting for a woman to be forced to take part in MMA.
As most people know I am in no way sexist, and in fact most people would describe as a feminist, but there is no place for women in legalised street brawling. What a revolting spectacle this must make. Similar - no doubt - to the "cat fights" WWF used to organise between Stacey Keibler and Trish Status.
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First off, you would probably be right about the 99% of the population thing except that mo one is forcing Gina Carano (or her opponent Cris Santos)
Second, if you really were a "feminist" then why can't a woman do whatever a man can?
Third, try this but I'll warn you now it's no "cat fight".
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Heath Herring is being described as a "gate keeper" - he is a bum who has lost about 20 fights. He is a perrenial opponent because he cant fight, but is relatively durable. He has fought a few top fighters and been beaten by them all
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He's fought alot of top fighters actually and yes he's lost alot of fights but he's also won alot of fights. He is a gatekeeper. Most of his losses are to current or future champions. Hence gatekeeper.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Randall Coutre - yes, a blown up Light Heavy. James Toney fights at heavy now, does that make him a legitimate heavyweight (and remember he won the title only to get stripped for juicing). And what excuse to you have with regards to the man being almost 50?
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First off, its RANDY Couture.
Second Heavyweight is his natural weight class. He walks around at about 220 lbs which puts him in the smaller end of heavyweight though so he can cut weight down to lightheavy if he wants. How does this make him "not a legitimate" heavyweight? It's not like he has to bulk up to go to heavy, he just doesn't cut for the weigh in.
As far as being almost 50, he was 45 when during the fight with Brock. The same age George Foreman was when he won his last HW belt. Randy is in amazing shape for a 45 year old and his body has held up increadibly well.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Frank Mir - Most accurate assessments put the guy in the top 20, not the top 3. Ive seen the fight, and he doesnt have the physique or the courage of a fighter.
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Mir was on most top ten lists for HW, before the Nogueira fight (usually listed behind Fedor, Nogueira, Arlovski, and Couture). However when you KO the guy who's ranked #2 it'll usually jump you up the list. Going into the fight with Brock most places were ranking Mir as #3-#5 in the world for HW.
Out of curiousity since you know next to nothing about Mir how do you know he doesn't have the physique or courage of a fighter.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
Like I said - supposedly Lesner won a few fights in college. Big deal. This means nothing in pro sport. If he was an good he'd have turned pro at 18. But he went to college to fighter other people who arent good enough to turn pro just like he wasnt good enough. He "only" lost 5 times to second tier youth opponents... doesnt impress me in the slightest.
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No what you said was "supposed fights" neither of which is true. Lesnar won ALOT of wrestling matches. The NCAA isn't a "second tier" league. It's the biggest amateur wrestling league in America. Really the only place to go after that is the olympics. There was no "going pro" for wrestling (the WWE doesn't count) and even still the closest thing to "going pro" with wrestling would be MMA.