It's just a pointless argument. Anyone can rip apart any sport and say it's not fit to be a sport. Clearly this is the point of this entire OP, as the starter cannot fathom how mixed martial arts in any form is noble. I mean.. the fact that the arts involved teach you to take an opponent down and make the aggressor submit while on the ground has nothing to do with it. Obviously, the people who study the art forms and become good at them, are clearly just thugs and have no nobility in them... we can ignore the fact that 99% of the time these same people get up, shake hands and commend the other person for a well rounded fight. We can also ignore the safety issues.. there are very few major injuries in MMA. Oh wait, there's few injuries of a deadly nature because MMA is just EASY and anyone can do it.