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Old 06-11-2003, 12:52 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Originally posted by rubicon
I haven't read through the thread so I'm just tagging my reply to the end. Here's my 2 cents. And it's worth just that...

Reloaded sufferrs from verbal diahhrea, fight scenes that go on (and on and on and on). and general big-budget movie bloat.

The first Matrix was a tight film. The philosophy was well communicated without a lot of exposition. The theme of believing in one's self to accomplish your goals was well done. The theme of Morpheus' and Trinity's undying belief and devotion to Neo is well done. The fight scenes were fun but also part of the character development.

Reloaded aspired to be these things and fell short.
I agree with you in some ways. I personally really enjoyed the fight scene, I really enjoy well excecuted fight scene choreography (I'm a big John Woo fan!) but I can certianly see how it may not be to some people's taste, especially the brawl scene and the medievil fight scene.

I defintly agree with you on the verbal diahhrea. My god would the Merovingian never stop!? I mean Christ! it's not that difficult to explain the concept of predeterminism! He just went on and on! Without actually saying anything, he would keep on saying the same damn thing over and over, just rephrasing it in different ways. The idea that he is trying to convey is not really so complex that he needed to talk endlessly on it, but he kept going, repeating himself over and over, boring us all to death with his over wordy, overly long expalination of cause and effect, and then just as you think he's about to wrap up, NO! there he goes again, explaining the same thing from a differnt angle, until eventually you start to believe that he it will never end. You really feel that he could be a little more consise....Ok I'll stop now; I think you get my point!

Anyway, his speech was overly long, as were many of the other speeches, they were also very wordy, for no particular reason, giving the Matrix a rather undeserved air of pretensiousness, which is a shame.

As for which is the better movie, I am as yet undecided. I am witholding judgement until I see Revolutions, as we can then see how the three fit together as a whole. The Matrix was a complete film in its own right, but Reloaded is only half of a very long movie, which is the single sequel to The Matrix, and you would never judge a movie after seeing only half of it! I would say that I enjoyed The Matrix more, as it was a complete story, simple, and it just blew you away with the special effects. Reloaded however is a much more ambition film. It has a much more dense back story to it, making the world of the matrix and much more complex place, however it also introduces such gaping holes that we are relying on Revolutions to fix them. Also in Reloaded, the special effects, as amazing as they were, were nothing new. We had already been blown away by them in the first film! They were enjoyable none-the-less.
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