Here we go again.
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Originally Posted by Strange Famous
I think it is only appropriate to make a separate thread about this, so as not to not fill the thread about which MMA fighter will win which brawl with comments about its validity as a sport
I will make the following points
1 - To strike a man when he is down is utterly cowardly. Any person who chooses to compete in a sport where a key factor is the striking of a fallen man fundamentally has an element of cowardice in his personality. The rule of MMA encourage cowardice
Many of the people who will comment on this are men, who were once boys, and as a kid at school or as a man in life - we probably have all been in some kind of fight or other. Assuming you arent fighting for your life - if you knock a man down, you let him get up and fight. When he says down the fight is over. Full stop. The rules of MMA are a direct affront to the basic concepts of sport and masculinity. You dont hit a man that is down, you dont hit a man in the back. Full stop.
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It isn't cowardice. MMA incorporates all forms of martial arts, hence grappling takes things to the ground, hence fighters take damage on the ground. They can defend it, it's not like they are getting smoked in a completely defenseless position. If you were not so ignorant about the sport you would know that a lot of fighters fight off their back, its their game plan.
We all know you jock boxing, the refs in MMA are actually there to help fighters. Instead of me getting knocked retarded and getting punch drunk as shit from standing 8 counts, the second I catch a flash knockout the ref is in the scrap and stopping the fight.
False, stupid, and completely ignorant point.
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2 - Wrestling requires some but little skill. If you look at MMA records even the best fighters have losses... thats because every MMA fight is a lottery. You slip up, or get taken down, and someone has you in a position to break your arm in a second. You either submit, or cant carry on anyway. MMA is about as fair judge of supremacy as the average brawl in a pub car park . One mistake and the fights over thats it. Anyone with a basic level of toughness and strength could be a MMA champion after 2 months of training
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Every MMA fight is a lottery? It's called a punchers chance. Take a look at guys like Mike Brown, Fedor, or Anderson Silva who haven't lost in years. GSP has avenged in devastating fashion his two losses.
Just because MMA doesn't feed cans to fighters like in boxing, just because they don't protect fighters, doesn't mean it's a lottery. There is always a punchers chance like in boxing ala Douglas, Pavlic, Rahman, and Tarver.
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3 - MMA has no history. Boxing goes back to men like James Figg, Tom Cribb, Jem Mace (and if you dont know who they are you dont know much about combat sports in general)... the holder of the world championship may be involved in alphabet politics, but they also inherit a title that can be best described as "The Emperor of Masculinity". Boxing has produced Marciano, Pep, Ali, Louis, Johnson, Leonard, Robinson, Sullivan, Mace, Chazev, Foreman, Dempsey, Wilde, Holmes, Liston, Tyson... MMA has names like Graycie, Silva, Liddell...
Yeah, exactly. Who?
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Everything has to have it's start. You're talking shit about a sport that started less than 20 years ago and has already surpassed boxing in popularity.
Boxing is a joke, you have no centralized system, no unified titles. You have corruption, and you protect your fighters. Promoters ruined your sport and your time is passed, you have no stable for the future.