little_tippler

Hi,

I wasn't going to come back to this thread but I decided I should. You'll notice my first response was actually light hearted, at least to me. I said I thought the assumption was silly to a degree, though I can accept you may be able to distinguish some women's origin at times. Sure, some are more obvious. I just don't tend to agree with sweeping generalizations. I don't like to perpetuate the notion that American women are this or European women are that. More and more, everything is mixed, intertwined, connected.

I then proceeded to go to the trouble to get some pics in the thread, which I thought could be fun, and even interesting. Sorry if I couldn't get pics of only run of the mill women, but models are also just people so I thought, since this wasn't such a serious topic, that they'd do ok. I'm not sure where you're reading that anyone is pissed off. Maybe some people don't totally agree, is all. I don't think you need to feel so defensive about it.

I find that the direct responses to my first post are pretty harsh and do not accept my point of view almost at all. So maybe I'm the one who should feel slighted. After all, I'm one of the 'European women' being spoken about here and I don't like being lumped into a group and have people brag how they can tell where I'm from without my even opening my mouth. But maybe I'm an exception. I have been perfectly fluent in English since I was 4 and so I possibly don't have that whole mouth and jaw shape that conventional European people have :\ I realize some people are 'praising' 'European women'. But there is just something strange about the whole idea.

I'm sorry if this thread has devolved, through any fault of my own. I also want to say that I appreciate your contributions to the TFP. I think more than anything, there has just been a small misunderstanding, which can easily be put right.

I could have done this by PM but I prefer to be open about things.

Also, if anyone is interested, here is the list of nationalities for the girls I posted - maybe it will give some of you a laugh.

1 Portuguese
2 American
3 Russian
4 Ukranian
5 Dutch
6 Brazilian
7 Italian
8 Italian
9 Canadian
10 American

(yes, two girls are neither)

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Whether we write or speak or do but look
We are ever unapparent. What we are
Cannot be transfused into word or book.
Our soul from us is infinitely far.
However much we give our thoughts the will
To be our soul and gesture it abroad,
Our hearts are incommunicable still.
In what we show ourselves we are ignored.
The abyss from soul to soul cannot be bridged
By any skill of thought or trick of seeming.
Unto our very selves we are abridged
When we would utter to our thought our being.
We are our dreams of ourselves, souls by gleams,
And each to each other dreams of others' dreams.

Fernando Pessoa, 1918