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Old 07-12-2009, 09:51 AM   #13 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
That's just it, though, they're not going to abstain.
Here is the difference and I will use alcohol as an example to illustrate what I have been trying to say.

I have no problem with schools teaching the scientific affects of alcohol, the history, the law.
In my view the decision people make to drink alcohol is their decision, I do not make moral judgment, nor do I see anything inherently wrong with drinking alcohol.
However, children do not have the capacity to make mature informed decisions regarding alcohol consumption, we have certain laws applying to children that don't apply to adults.
Schools should take the standard position that the best approach for children is to abstain from the recreational use of alcohol, and they should refer the child to their parents/guardian/etc. for more guidance on the subject.

I do not think our schools should adopt the approach of - we know you are going to drink alcohol so... - here are some complimentary shot glasses, here are a list of "safe" drinking establishments, here are some instructions for drinking games, and here are some coupons allowing you to buy 2 drinks and get one free, etc, etc.

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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
ace: It's a moral issue for Palin and the social conservatives who support her.
When I am against the social conservative agenda, I am against it. In this case if they are on the correct side of the argument - I will stand on what I think is the correct side of the argument. I have always had problems with "social conservatives" on many issues where they want to impose their values on others, which is why I have gone back and forth between being a Libertarian and a Republican. I think on this issue with Palin she has concern primarily for children. Some social conservatives have an agenda of wanting to take the pleasure out of sex and wanting people to feel guilty about enjoyment and desire - I think these people are small in numbers.
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