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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Based on specific policy actions...[INDENT]Bush approved enhanced interrogation....Obama overturned that approval.
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You can pretend "enhanced interrogation" is a thing of the past, I don't.
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Bush approved the use of CIA black prisons...Obama overturned that approval.
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Read the fine print. Obama reserved the right to undo the order if he think the need arises and:
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The CIA has used secret "black site" prisons around the world to question terror suspects, usually plucking them from one country and moving them to another where U.S. agents operated a prison. A senior White House source said the CIA will be allowed to continue these "renditions" but not to countries that torture and not to its own prisons.
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Obama orders CIA prisons, Gitmo shut - White House- msnbc.com
So, I guess the CIA can take someone to France and still use "Fear-up" to subject the person to all kinds of things that Obama and his supporters are so, so outraged about.
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Bush approved rendition to countries that torture their own citizens... Obama overturned that approval.
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Yes, Bush had a way of seeking the best to get the job done. I am not sure I would use the white sandy beaches of Fiji to conduct a rendition, but if that is what Obama wants - elections do have consequences.
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The Obama DoJ is developing policies to provide more rights to detainees than provided by Bush.
...the question is simple...Were their policies the same?
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This has run its course. You believe there is a material difference between Bush and Obama on this issue, I don't.
Earlier I used the word vague to characterize the Army Field Manual's "Fear-up" provision. that was not the correct word. When I read that provision it has a very specific meaning - if I am questioning a suspect, I can just about do whatever the hell I want as long as the suspect does not become unresponsive.
Obama is a master at spin, for that I give him credit.
