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Old 07-07-2009, 02:05 PM   #201 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux View Post
You are dodging the specific examples I provided. Alladin did the same.
Me, dodging? O.k., I will forget what I asked you and address your question.

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Try to focus on the differences in the treatment of detainees I noted and Alladin's attempt to compare Obama's proposed federal cyberspace security program that has been discussed openly to the totally secretive TSP.

How do they represent more of the same or a Bush 3rd term?
Obama's proposed cyberspace security program will not adversely affect me directly, just as the the secretive TSP program did not adversely affect me directly.

Detainees are being detained in a humane fashion some have been released, some will be released, and some are still considered a threat and will not be released. I don't see a difference between the two administrations.

I don't feel this answers your question, but I am not sure i understand your question.

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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
First off, you're comparing apples to planets. Second, the tax plans that the Bush advisers set up provided at best temporary relief as a trade off for an even worse crash once the bubbles actually started bursting. I'm not saying President Obama is making all the right decisions, but at least he's trying to address them instead of passing it along to the next administration.

You couldn't be more wrong. We invaded to located WMDs. Since there are no WMDs, no strategy can "work". We lost as soon as we invaded and no amount of surges can fix that. At best, we leave the country in shambles.

I speak up. A lot of people here on TFP are vocally against the war in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, because of the ignorant strategies of the right, all politicians must pretend they're warmongers lest they be painted as weak. It's disgusting. The weakest people in American history are the people that commit to unnecessary wars.

Yes, it might some day. For right now, only 6 months after taking office during 2 wars, and economic free fall and unbelievable human rights violations, things are at least headed away from the wrong direction.

I think it would serve you well to not get your information from right wing news outlets anymore. I've not read Kos, Huffington, or the New Republic for some time and I've found that I am more easily able to see through BS on my side of the spectrum. Considering that you often echo Republican and conservative talking points on cue with their media release tells me that you frequent place like Drudge, Fox News, National Review, WorldNetDaily, etc. Having the same ideologies as an organization does not mean they should be given a free pass.
I know, we have discussed the above topics to death and will never agree, relative to Bush. But the reality is - the recession is getting worse. The war in Afghanistan is leading us nowhere. There are increasing threats from Iran and N. Korea. We have an increasing national debt. And, nothing has been done regarding global warming, even thou the planet is cooling. I know it has only been x months, it is Bush's fault, and Republicans don't have a plan, Palin is just the worst person in the world, and that FOX News Channel...
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