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Old 07-07-2009, 01:52 PM   #200 (permalink)
Willravel
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The recession early in the Bush term was short and his tax plan helped. The Obama administration is already saying what they underestimated the recession and their plans probably won't work and we may need another bailout.
First off, you're comparing apples to planets. Second, the tax plans that the Bush advisers set up provided at best temporary relief as a trade off for an even worse crash once the bubbles actually started bursting. I'm not saying President Obama is making all the right decisions, but at least he's trying to address them instead of passing it along to the next administration.
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The war in Iraq eventually lead to a strategy that worked and Bush always had clear principled goals and objectives.
You couldn't be more wrong. We invaded to located WMDs. Since there are no WMDs, no strategy can "work". We lost as soon as we invaded and no amount of surges can fix that. At best, we leave the country in shambles.
[quote=aceventura3;2665077]The Obama, Afghanistan strategy lacks clarity and is destine to fail, everyone knows it and no one has the courage to speak up.[QUOTE]
I speak up. A lot of people here on TFP are vocally against the war in Afghanistan. Unfortunately, because of the ignorant strategies of the right, all politicians must pretend they're warmongers lest they be painted as weak. It's disgusting. The weakest people in American history are the people that commit to unnecessary wars.
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Your "miles and miles better" comment does not seem to be based in reality. At some point the - I inherited... - line has to get old, don't you agree?
Yes, it might some day. For right now, only 6 months after taking office during 2 wars, and economic free fall and unbelievable human rights violations, things are at least headed away from the wrong direction.

I think it would serve you well to not get your information from right wing news outlets anymore. I've not read Kos, Huffington, or the New Republic for some time and I've found that I am more easily able to see through BS on my side of the spectrum. Considering that you often echo Republican and conservative talking points on cue with their media release tells me that you frequent place like Drudge, Fox News, National Review, WorldNetDaily, etc. Having the same ideologies as an organization does not mean they should be given a free pass.
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