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Old 07-07-2009, 11:19 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
Liberal/conservative is one spectrum. Libertarian/authoritarian is entirely another. Not related.
I think he meant that libertarians are generally more conservative than Republicans. It's a valid consideration, though I don't think it's necessarily true.

The labels are hard to keep track of, but both liberals and conservatives came out of classical liberalism: a value of free markets and individual rights and freedoms. But then many liberals went after social liberalism, and many conservatives went after social conservatism. They vary on economic philosophies as well, of course.

I don't know. If you consider classical liberalism, social conservatism, and fiscal conservatism, then libertarians are all for classical liberalism and fiscal conservatism but don't particularly care for social conservatism.

EDIT: note that although liberal/conservative and libertarian/authoritarian are two different spectra, together they make up a matrix within which we all find ourselves plotted. So this means that a libertarian isn't necessarily conservative, though they may generally be. I don't think "socialist libertarianism" is entirely that popular.
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