Mr. Tisjustme, go back and read the last large postings that Knifemissle, Cynosure, and I made, and catch up with the debate.
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Ready?
Who can make ANY statement about an idea like "the Universe" equally as vague as that of "God"... SCIENCE even! Science is just as deferrant as religion, being the balance to religion, for most people. Religion forms questions, Science gets the tangible answers; these are separate institutions, mind you: separate cultures are dominated by either of these two on an esoteric level, and a society in a good balance between them is rare at best.
p.s. Amen Cyberjake, you have good sensibilities on this.
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Yeah, well, you're just that awesome, I guess. It's not like I guessed so anyways.
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