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Martian · 06-23-2009, 08:18 PM

Hint: You don't get shot down because you are a Nice Guy (TM). You get shot down because You Need To Grow A Pair.

Nice guys don't finish last. Timid guys who refuse to make a move do.

You compliment her, make her smile and make her laugh. Have you ever tried, I don't know, asking her out on a date?

DISCLAIMER: This is all said in the kindest way possible. No hurt feelings intended. It is gentle correction and not dickstomping.

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Serious Discussion:

There's a whole other topic here about the societal pressures on men vs. women in the world of dating. Whether men are expected to make the first move and why, where the balance of power lies for the duration of the Mating Dance, etc etc. This is all well and good and interesting. But at the end of the day we can sit here and talk all of this shit out, then I'm going to go climb into bed with my girlfriend while you climb into bed with your cat.

Nobody ever got a girl by being a nice guy, but that doesn't mean nice guys don't get girls. If the nice guy is too shy to actually make a move on a girl, then the problem is his and not 'women want assholes.'

I think it was the great Sultana who said "you can't just sit around and wait for a girl to fall onto your dick."

EDIT: Also, everything Thespian86 said.

It may not look like it at first glance, but we're actually saying the same thing. Confidence is the key issue. Cajoling and wheedling and making half-assed compliments does not show confidence. Saying to a girl 'you have beautiful eyes and I'd love to get to know you better over dinner' does. Being yourself and letting the girl know who you are does, too.

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Martian Young Crumudgeon Location: Canada	Hint: You don't get shot down because you are a Nice Guy (TM). You get shot down because You Need To Grow A Pair. Nice guys don't finish last. Timid guys who refuse to make a move do. You compliment her, make her smile and make her laugh. Have you ever tried, I don't know, asking her out on a date? DISCLAIMER: This is all said in the kindest way possible. No hurt feelings intended. It is gentle correction and not dickstomping. ... Serious Discussion: There's a whole other topic here about the societal pressures on men vs. women in the world of dating. Whether men are expected to make the first move and why, where the balance of power lies for the duration of the Mating Dance, etc etc. This is all well and good and interesting. But at the end of the day we can sit here and talk all of this shit out, then I'm going to go climb into bed with my girlfriend while you climb into bed with your cat. Nobody ever got a girl by being a nice guy, but that doesn't mean nice guys don't get girls. If the nice guy is too shy to actually make a move on a girl, then the problem is his and not 'women want assholes.' I think it was the great Sultana who said "you can't just sit around and wait for a girl to fall onto your dick." EDIT: Also, everything Thespian86 said. It may not look like it at first glance, but we're actually saying the same thing. Confidence is the key issue. Cajoling and wheedling and making half-assed compliments does not show confidence. Saying to a girl 'you have beautiful eyes and I'd love to get to know you better over dinner' does. Being yourself and letting the girl know who you are does, too. __________________ I wake up in the morning more tired than before I slept I get through cryin' and I'm sadder than before I wept I get through thinkin' now, and the thoughts have left my head I get through speakin' and I can't remember, not a word that I said - Ben Harper, Show Me A Little Shame Last edited by Martian; 06-23-2009 at 08:20 PM..