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I pretty much agree with what you said Mart...
I wasn't implying it was original, this is a message board, not a peer reviewed journal :P
And I think its quite obvious that to most (doesn't mean you Mart) people our rights are "god given" and "real" in the sense that they will always be morally right. My only point is that we totally made em up (whether god exists or not) and I'm wondering what this means for the future once more people realize this.
"I cannot follow the logic of where you go from there"
So what part of it can't you follow Mart?
"Go out into the wilderness and you will find out what your rights are in nature."
Pretty much my point in a nutshell.
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