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Originally Posted by Shauk
I'm done with this thread.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm tired of feeling like the subject of personal attacks against my intelligence, insinuations of ignorance to the history of the subject matter I present, among other posts.
Crossed the line in my opinion.
Everyone is quick to jump the gun because I used the words "hip hop" in my question apparently.
The Hip-Hop Generation's Own Black History | | AlterNet an article on the divergence of black culture in to the hip hop culture
Hip hop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia a wiki entry that, wow, I didn't write, that says
Don't be so dense.
Again though, i'm just going to bow out of this thread and leave it to the dogs to shred apart like some bad meat because the fact that I even acknowledged this tangent, and the fact that the only "on topic" response thus far was by Squeeb, i'm pretty sure this conversation is doomed to completely ignore the original question at hand for people to leap to the defense of hip hop, for whatever reason. This thread wasn't some cleverly veiled attempt to launch a crusade against hip hop in the defense of protecting the black American image, hell, they already have groups doing that, I listen to some of it here and there. I don't get why people are so hung up on it. Just because I said i'm not a fan of the negatives doesn't mean I can't recognize positives. You must really take me for a troglodyte if that's the case.
ugh, nevermind, done.
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I'm not sure what you expected. You are using a form of music to illustrate what is bad about black culture, even saying this:
"willful deviation from the norm for the sake of being a rebel"
what the fuck is that supposed to mean? Willful deviation from the norm and being rebellious is, what, bad? Tell that to the guys who wrote, 'Smack My Bitch Up.' A song that I happen to enjoy because I realize that art, especially in the form of music, is not usually a mandate for living.
And you're using it your OP, ostensibly, to defend racism. Racism of old was 'innocent' because they didn't know the justification for their opinions was to be found 40 years in the future in the form of hip-hop music and gangster culture. I'm sorry if you're feeling attacked, but I doubt anyone here woke up this morning and said 'I'm gonna attack shauk today.'