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Old 06-17-2009, 12:25 AM   #151 (permalink)
Ambiguity
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I can't read through this whole thread, it would take hours, but I have read a page or two, and I guess my 2 cents about the original question/comment is this:

1- Yes, Obama probibly walked into the White House thinking, based on a pre-presidential, non-POTUS security clearance essentially that limited what he knew about the true nature of the situation in Gitmo, the brutal TRUTH that if we walked away from Iraq right now, in 6 months to a year the country would be the epicenter of a kind of rogue nation that would make North Korea look like a Sunday school-girl. The ember of hatred has been stoked in extremists of our way of life, (in their reality an unholy, god-less bunch of heathens are we, an opinion stoked by their belief in a twisted, ugly version (in OUR eyes anyway)of a otherwise legitimate world religion . (not to start a religious debate, please, lol.) I think the conservatives jump way too quickly and way too loudly shouting a chant that the country has grown tired of, distrust, suspicion, condemnation. Their chosen view of the collective reality is legitimate in their eyes to just the same extent as liberals shout their chants of whatever it is their chanting that week, the political flavor of the month so to speak. I think personally, that I believe that Obama is at least as smart as me. Maybe smarter. And therefore, I also believe that he can take stock of the reality of the political promises that were the ONLY WAY HE WOULD EVER GET ELECTED (by running exactly as he did and everything that entailed, the good/bad/ugly). Otherwise it would be McCain and Palin, which, I mean... COME ON. Palin is a joke, and anyone who could take her seriously, who believe she would be a good choice to help run the country, is... well... dumber than her. Obama can ride the wave he's on, he has the Political capital so to speak, so yeah he's got it to spend on the realities of the world that those who voted for him might not believe in. And I trust him to be smart enough, to be a stable enough human being that looking at all the challenges facing this country and the world, he'll do what he thinks is right. Not that he'll do exactly what I think he should do. Because I don't know what he knows, no one does, and all the FOX/CNN etc etc etc media watchers who think the media has the whole story about, well, ANYTHING besides Lindey Lohan's relationships, or Britney Spears meltdown is just blissfully ignorant. Media=Entertainment, based loosely on real life. To allow the world to be reduced to what you can read on Page 1-10 of the newspaper is living in a minuaturized version of the world. Why do you think no one cares about the war anymore? No coverage. Old news. So the media for the most part, moves on. Because they have to. Because the world is bigger, and offers more than they could ever use, and also they need the money to operate, to compete for viewer, to be ENTERTAINING- from advertisers. It's delivery is almost a collectively driven entertainment on demand, lazily playing over the world with a narrow-minded, keyhole, snapshot, simplistic microscope like a slow motion snowboarder doing S-curves down a huge mountainside.

I digress.

2- Give it some time. I agree with a much earlier post saying it will be 2012 before things will start to truly bear fruit. Give it some time. Can't change the world overnight, and I think he realizes the reality of that fact now more than ever, not less.

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