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Old 06-11-2009, 02:10 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Will, I'll cut it out if you stop being willfully obstinant and actually do your research.

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Khamenei and the Guardians aren't the only center of power. The Majlis carry power and influence as well. Anyway, if we're under the assumption that Mousavi is being allowed to run by the Supreme Leader an Guardians, they're willing to allow a more progressive face represent them.
You're implying that the Majli has parity with the Supreme Leader, the Guardians and/or the President. The Majli is not the exact equivalent of our Congress. Please do your research on what the Majli is, how it operates and where power lies within Iran. The Majli has no parity and is completely subserviant to the SL and the Guardians. It is becoming difficult to have this conversation since I can only assume that you are being willfully ignorant, which is quite annoying to someone who does actually know facts and has at least a working knowledge of the flow of power within Iran.

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Whoa, whoa, who said anything about recognizing Israel? You're exaggerating my position. All I've been saying is that this might be part of a larger pattern of stabilization in the Middle East.
Then you haven't been paying attention. They're not going to normalize relations with the US either. It is a basic pillar of the Revolution and something that can't just be undone at the drop of a hat. I'll agree that it might be the very first hint of a larger pattern, but that's all that it is, and it's not a very big hint nor one that can really be taken seriously at this point since there's no other supporting evidence of a greater movement.

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It's going to be difficult for the anti-Iranians in the West to demonize the Iranian people when they vote for the most moderate voice on the ticket. What are the Cheneys of the world going to say when Ahmadinejad is ousted and replaced by a more moderate president? Because the talking heads work on a superficial level of world news and politics, they've fostered the idea that Ahmadinejad was in charge of Iran. If a more moderate president is elected, they'll be in a pickle when it comes to demonizing Iran because they'll lose their main target. Don't underestimate the effect that might have.
This is more willful ignorance. You clearly are lacking any sort of knowledge about how the Iranians view the West and the US in particular. This has nothing at all to do with Iranian foreign policy. Whoever their president is, he will not be setting foreign policy. He may act on it, but he will not be setting it.

Now, if you want to talk about how the West will view a change in leadership, that's an entirely different conversation than the one you set out to have.
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