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Originally Posted by Willravel
People on the right think we're fascists because we believe in taxation and a medium sized federal government or something.
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Come on Will... I think we're talking about the extremes here... not the average, where most of us agree on more than less. Words like fascist, socialist, communist, progressive, conservative, liberal and libertarian, all have specific and different meanings. I believe most, like in religion, have no clue regarding the history and core philosophies of the political movements they subscribe. Unfortunately, some really bad guys came along and gave certain social concepts a really bad image (mass murder, racial purity, concentration camps), and it's understandable to want to divert those stereotypes on to their political adversaries. Did I mention that Hitler was also insane?
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Originally Posted by dippin
except that there wasn't a single coherent argument there: "racism refers to race, which is a collective, and lefties are also concerned with a collective, so they are racists, and therefore nazis. Lefties want a more progressive tax code so they want to control you, just like the nazis controlled the jews." Really?
This whole "collectivist" vs "individualist" distinction is nearly useless in this context, especially coming from a douchebag like Glenn Beck, mister 9/12. proud of American traditions, and therefore as much of a "collectivist" as any lefty.
But the litmus test, I think, is simply asking any nazi around whether they think of themselves as leftist or rightist.
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So what have you said that has anything to do with the thread or demonstrating how Hitler was not a leftist?
The litmus test is to list Leftist concepts and Nazi concepts, then see where they match or differ. It's that simple.