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Originally Posted by Willravel
People on the right think we're fascists because we believe in taxation and a medium sized federal government or something.
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It's like we all have multiple personality disorders: we are, at the same time, effete effeminate bleeding hearts who wouldn't even slap Osama if he walked by us and we cry "racism" all the time, overly sensitive PC police that we are AND we also support an aggressive expansionist military who massacre minorities in the name of the fatherland (when we are not using them as slave labor to support big capitalist conglomerates).
In any case, can this thread be a double Goodwin? A Goodwin on a thread about calling others nazis?
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Originally Posted by ottopilot
The thread refers to a clip from the Glenn Beck Show where at one point parallels were examined regarding leftists (progressives) and Nazis. Apparently, the question you pose was already addressed on the show (hence the thread). So based on "leftist" concepts, politics, etc., how was Hitler not a leftist?
I didn't say he wasn't an insane leftist. That distinction should be noted... but a hard-core leftist still the same.
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except that there wasn't a single coherent argument there: "racism refers to race, which is a collective, and lefties are also concerned with a collective, so they are racists, and therefore nazis. Lefties want a more progressive tax code so they want to control you, just like the nazis controlled the jews." Really?
This whole "collectivist" vs "individualist" distinction is nearly useless in this context, especially coming from a douchebag like Glenn Beck, mister 9/12. proud of American traditions, and therefore as much of a "collectivist" as any lefty.
But the litmus test, I think, is simply asking any nazi around whether they think of themselves as leftist or rightist.