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Old 06-09-2009, 11:46 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Willravel, for people to live like in Matrix, protected in those cells and living 10000 years in a perfect world of dreams , I am against that. Yes infant mortality existed. If they escaped that they could live as long as we do now. Their organization was logical and better for their survival and happiness than the one of the first civilized farmer/slaves.

Hospitalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Hospitalism (or anaclitic depression in its sublethal form) was a pediatric diagnosis used in the 1930s to describe infants who wasted away while in hospital. The symptoms could include retarded physical development, and disruption of perceptual-motor skills and language.[1] It is now understood that this wasting disease was mostly caused by a lack of social contact between the infant and its caregivers. Infants in poorer hospitals were less subject to this disease since those hospitals could not afford incubators which meant that the hospital staff regularly held the infants.
About education, there is more somewhere else, in the links above, can't find now:
The Machine in our Heads--Glenn Parton
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When the child becomes aware of ideas and impulses that oppose the dictates of civilization, s/he experiences anxiety, which is the signal for danger. It is not the insights and urges themselves that the child fears, but rather the reaction to them on the part of those in charge. Since the child cannot escape from those who control its life, s/he runs away from dangerous thoughts and feelings. In other words, the child institutes repression of its primitive self. Tribal ideas are now isolated, cut off from awareness, and unable to properly influence the future course of events.
The trauma or inescapable terror of civilization is responsible for the derangement of reason. That inner dialogue in the human mind that is the hallmark of self-consciousness has ceased, because the depth-dimension of reflective thought, which is the primitive mind, has been silenced. Modern people no longer hear their own primal voice, and without interaction between new ideas and old ideas, the demands of the individual and the demands of the tribe (and species), there is no deep thinking. On the contrary, when reason is cut off at the roots, it becomes shallow, unable to determine what is of true value in life.

The passage of tribal ideas from the oldest and deepest layer of the mind into individual consciousness is part of the natural, normal functioning of the human mind. Deep thinking is not the result of education; it is innate, our birthright as Homo sapiens. What civilization has done is to disrupt the free flow of ideas in the human mind by shutting down the primitive mind through traumatic socialization. In such a situation, cut off from the time-tested and proven ideas of prehistory, reason becomes one-dimensional, and is unable to solve the problems of modern life. No amount of new information can replace tribal wisdom, which provides the foundation for any good and decent life.
Why being born in the year 2009 on this planet, kids have to fight the ones around them ? Their own nation even. For work. Are we not a great civilization ? To welcome new members and offer them everything we achieved + a chance to work as much as they want. More or less. A mandatory work period of some 3,4, maybe 5 years and they have the basics for free for te rest of their lives. Not looking down on them if they chose to just eat and wait to die. Unlikely.

But being in a great tribe they would naturally desire to prove themselves more and help advance our civilization. Working in the field they chose and like. See the "gift based economy" of tribes. Not look at them as new competitors, but as new potential for progress, and new friends, members. As a tribe would.

More about what I wish for the future here :
Why capitalism can never work - Tilted Forum Project
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