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Originally Posted by squeeeb
i'm the one guy who says its wrong, i'm against abortion. if you don't want the kid, have it and sell it, give it up for adoption, whatever. just because it is a fetus and cant talk or breathe quite yet does not make it "not a person," in my opinion. it is a living thing, therefore killing it would be murder. yes, i'm kinda also against birth control because the morning after pill is technically an abortion. (oddly, i'm all for condoms and masturbation, even though bazillions of sperms die.)
does anyone have accurate statistics on how many children are born because of rape? i dont think it is that many, and i don't see it as a good reason to have an abortion. being raped is horrible, but have the kid and sell it and use the money for counseling. don't kill a human because something shitty happened to you.
the ONLY way i could justify abortion is if having the baby would absolutely 100% kill the mother, and that is more rare than a female willing to talk to me. sadly, abortion, like anything else humans want to do, will be done whether it's legal or not.
how about we make abortion illegal in the US, and instead of abortion clinics, we have abortion travel agencies that will book you a round trip flight, stay, and abortion in china?
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it IS the woman's body that is affected. it's also the living thing inside that woman's body that is affected. i'm not saying you (the collective you, not genuinegirly you) cant have an abortion cause you are merely a woman, i'm saying you cant have an abortion cause the human inside you who cant speak should be taken into account. if i didn't believe the fetus is a living human being, i wouldn't be against it.
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I tend to agree with most of squeeb's major points. It is not just the woman's body. It is also the child's. I'm not totally sure how I feel about the morning after pill, but anything after the first trimester is murder. The minute a woman opens her legs she has to open her mind to the possibility of getting pregnant. The man should get a say, because it is also his child. The woman did not concieve by herself. She had some help. My parents had countless court battles concerning custody of myself; why should an unborn baby be any different? That'd be like if my parents got together, came to the realization that I was socially and financially inconvenient, and consequently decided to shoot me and throw my dumbass in the river.
I never really understood the whole "Rape makes it okay." argument. My father and stepmother were abusive, but that doesn't mean that if I have kids some day I'm going to treat them like shit. Just because someone fucks you up doesn't give you the right to fuck up someone else.