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murp0434 · 06-03-2009, 06:26 PM

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And the laws are doing so well in stopping suicide, prostitution, drugs et al, aren't they?

Abortion doesn't belong here, it's a completely separate debate.

Any honest doctor, at least in the UK, will tell you they hide an awful lot of euthanasia behind the policy of killing the patient with enough morphine to manage their pain.

Euthanasia is, was and always will be part of medical care.

Deal with it by denying it, or deal with it in an adult, regulated manner. (the same goes for the drugs, prostitution and suicide too...)[/QUOTE]

Have to respond to this one...

You actually bring up a really good point, one which I myself have used in arguments about parenting. In my personal experience, I got away with a ton of shit even though my parents were really strict. So, better to have rules against everything, then people will get away with whatever they can, right?

Only problem is that the government is not my parent. The government is a (bloated) body of individuals chosen by the voting few to earmark money for individual goals and get taken out to lunch by lobbyists. I do not look to the government for moral guidance, nor do I look for personal structure from its laws.

If there are so many laws such as these that are either (a) widely ignored, (b) rarely enforced, or (c) both, why keep them on the books? What benefit does that have, besides breeding disrespect for laws in general? Why have laws that aren't enforced or that are impossible to enforce?

PS I see your point about abortion not belonging here but I disagree. Problem is that topic always opens up such a shitstorm that it becomes a waste of time to even bring up. But, for the record I do have to agree with prev. posters that laws based on religion in a country that supposedly separates church and state are rather hypocritical and absurd.

06-03-2009, 06:26 PM	#37 (permalink)
murp0434 Crazy Location: East Texas	[/QUOTE] And the laws are doing so well in stopping suicide, prostitution, drugs et al, aren't they? Abortion doesn't belong here, it's a completely separate debate. Any honest doctor, at least in the UK, will tell you they hide an awful lot of euthanasia behind the policy of killing the patient with enough morphine to manage their pain. Euthanasia is, was and always will be part of medical care. Deal with it by denying it, or deal with it in an adult, regulated manner. (the same goes for the drugs, prostitution and suicide too...)[/QUOTE] Have to respond to this one... You actually bring up a really good point, one which I myself have used in arguments about parenting. In my personal experience, I got away with a ton of shit even though my parents were really strict. So, better to have rules against everything, then people will get away with whatever they can, right? Only problem is that the government is not my parent. The government is a (bloated) body of individuals chosen by the voting few to earmark money for individual goals and get taken out to lunch by lobbyists. I do not look to the government for moral guidance, nor do I look for personal structure from its laws. If there are so many laws such as these that are either (a) widely ignored, (b) rarely enforced, or (c) both, why keep them on the books? What benefit does that have, besides breeding disrespect for laws in general? Why have laws that aren't enforced or that are impossible to enforce? PS I see your point about abortion not belonging here but I disagree. Problem is that topic always opens up such a shitstorm that it becomes a waste of time to even bring up. But, for the record I do have to agree with prev. posters that laws based on religion in a country that supposedly separates church and state are rather hypocritical and absurd. __________________ These are the good old days. How did I become upright?