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Old 06-03-2009, 02:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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That's the difference though for people who are against abortion vs those against drugs or sex or whatever. So long as you do it to yourself, you only affect yourself. Abortion affects the baby, and while some people don't think it's a baby and dismiss it, others don't, and never will.

I oppose heavy drinking on moral grounds, but I don't think it should be illegal so long as you don't drive/attack someone/piss on my house.



I posted earlier about where I think the boundaries are, but what about when it's not as ambiguous? I know late term abortion gets brought up a lot in these debates, but what about a situation where it's not rape or medical, the mother just either didn't know or couldn't decide before? Even if the baby is viable, or at least has a small chance, it's still legal in some states. Should this be a decision by the mother, even though if the baby were removed and smothered in the incubator it would be a crime?

Not trying to attack anyone, just saying again, the argument is "At what point does a fetus become a person?" If it's a person, we have to protect it, regardless who it offends. I say it's before birth, and before most other people would say.

Maybe I should quit posting for a while
Man, there's long way between 'before birth' and '2 weeks after fertilization'.

I think pretty much everyone agrees that late term abortions should be strictly regulated, and they are... always have been everywhere except the backstreet, iirc.

I think maybe you should educate yourself about the outcomes for premature births between 16 and 26 weeks.

HINT: They're not pretty at all.
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