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Old 06-03-2009, 04:06 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Xerxys View Post
Cm'on tisonlyi, I mustv'e read somewhere you pierced your penis. Was that mutilation or modification? What about tattoos? They really hurt and actually leave a mark that wasn't there before.

Mutilation is extreme. Mutilation is abuse. Besides take it from someone who had it done a bit later in life. To circumcise an adult or one with a fully developed penis is harder than an infant. I takes 2 weeks to recover and you must NOT have a full bladder when going to bed because morning wood is a motherf***er.
False Equivalence.

The adult choice to modify/mutilate (purely subjective in an ADULT context) my own body, in full knowledge of the facts and with sufficient control of my faculties, is in no way near the topic of neonatal or infant circumcision.

If I had a child, would I have the right to drive a slug of metal through the penis of my newborn son? Even if it's my religion? Even if all of my male friends have it done?

Would I have the right to cut the vaginal lips or stubs thereof from my infant newborn daughter?

Didn't think so.

Why?

It's an extremely invasive procedure undergone for entirely cosmetic or non-critical reasons. It's unethical in the extreme to inflict unnecessary agony, change and risk upon a helpless individual.

A newborn is an individual. They have rights.

Tell me how is infant male circumcision different from those two cases above?
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