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Skitto · 05-29-2009, 12:40 AM

I'm being raw, that's all.

Okay... This God, you know, he's a really cool guy, right?
This dude made everything, or so they say, and they also say that he is somehow inside everything (physically, aurically, idealistically, take your pick)

And if he IS everything, and he MADE everything, and he is IN everything, why do we not get the connection, god is made in EVERYTHING!

He is made IN everything, he is made OF everything, he is made WITHOUT everything, am I right so far? I took a little Beatles logic there, but I assume that God must also exist where existence does not... exist...

Uh, right?

Alright, now here is the basis of the argument: if God is Everything, and God is everywhere and nowhere,
inside and outside of his existence, existing even where he doesn't exist (because presumably in a
balanced-universe there must also be some kind of Void-of-god space)... if this is true, then does God get
tired of this kind of talk too? I mean, he can't sit and contemplate his omnipotence...

so what DOES he do?

None of our business, I say. It's our business to assume that it works beyond our comprehension,
it can also be a fun hobby to expand that comprehension through the argument; but it isn't anything to
REALLY worry about. It's His business.

That's why you said, Mantus, that:
"You may think I’m being an ass but it’s through these metaphors [kudos, btw for those]
that most faith based systems are maintained within people’s heads. Using big words doesn’t make us understand the concepts behind them [I've stayed on the side of the road intentionally, via big words]. All Cyno is doing is using terms we cannot comprehend (being outside the universe) [ding dong, the witch is dead- kill her more!] to support other terms we cannot understand (God) – leaving us nowhere. It's fun though!"

I'd like to repeat that because it sounds vaguely important:

"Leaves us nowhere,
it's fun though!"

I couldn't have said it better -and I didn't. What I said, in my frustration, was "The whole idea of theology, right or wrong, is irrelevant where it comes to natural tendencies. It is as irrelevant as it is instinctively obvious, or should be obvious, to any human!" Okay, I admit that I was insulting everyone's intelligence by calling out humanity for this. Yeesh, I wanna bite the head off a Jesus cookie after this...

So, point well and painfully taken: Mantus, Cynosure, even roachboy.

I'm sick of this.

but I'm gonna keep going because, 'ooh it's soooo fun!'

05-29-2009, 12:40 AM	#68 (permalink)
Skitto Crazy Location: Westernmost Continental U.S.	I'm being raw, that's all. Okay... This God, you know, he's a really cool guy, right? This dude made everything, or so they say, and they also say that he is somehow inside everything (physically, aurically, idealistically, take your pick) And if he IS everything, and he MADE everything, and he is IN everything, why do we not get the connection, god is made in EVERYTHING! He is made IN everything, he is made OF everything, he is made WITHOUT everything, am I right so far? I took a little Beatles logic there, but I assume that God must also exist where existence does not... exist... Uh, right? Alright, now here is the basis of the argument: if God is Everything, and God is everywhere and nowhere, inside and outside of his existence, existing even where he doesn't exist (because presumably in a balanced-universe there must also be some kind of Void-of-god space)... if this is true, then does God get tired of this kind of talk too? I mean, he can't sit and contemplate his omnipotence... so what DOES he do? None of our business, I say. It's our business to assume that it works beyond our comprehension, it can also be a fun hobby to expand that comprehension through the argument; but it isn't anything to REALLY worry about. It's His business. That's why you said, Mantus, that: "You may think I’m being an ass but it’s through these metaphors [kudos, btw for those] that most faith based systems are maintained within people’s heads. Using big words doesn’t make us understand the concepts behind them [I've stayed on the side of the road intentionally, via big words]. All Cyno is doing is using terms we cannot comprehend (being outside the universe) [ding dong, the witch is dead- kill her more!] to support other terms we cannot understand (God) – leaving us nowhere. It's fun though!" I'd like to repeat that because it sounds vaguely important: "Leaves us nowhere, it's fun though!" I couldn't have said it better -and I didn't. What I said, in my frustration, was "The whole idea of theology, right or wrong, is irrelevant where it comes to natural tendencies. It is as irrelevant as it is instinctively obvious, or should be obvious, to any human!" Okay, I admit that I was insulting everyone's intelligence by calling out humanity for this. Yeesh, I wanna bite the head off a Jesus cookie after this... So, point well and painfully taken: Mantus, Cynosure, even roachboy. I'm sick of this. but I'm gonna keep going because, 'ooh it's soooo fun!' __________________ Yeah, well, you're just that awesome, I guess. It's not like I guessed so anyways.