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Originally Posted by Shell
First of all, i am pleased to see that you didn't go for my jugular personally but rather questioned my views...thank you.
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Secondly, "words" are never just "words". That's why Webster went to the trouble of differentiating between all of them. Btw, he says the F word "is considered offensive to prevailing notions of propriety"
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Au contraire, words are ALWAYS just words. The only magic words left in modern society with any artificial power are 'cunt', and 'nigger', and in another decade or so even those will be mainstreamled and parodied into irrelevance.
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Thirdly, let's try this scenario: "little susie" asks Daddy, "what does "fuck off" mean? He can't exactly say, " well, little puppyface, it means... be on your way and make sweet love to your soulmate, my dear friend". No, instead he has to introduce his innocent towhead to anger, vedictiveness, and the disrespectful term of the sacred act of making love. It's true that little susie will learn this eventually but what right does Mr. "Fuckoff" Mohawk have of provoking that discussion too early? Let children enjoy their childhood innocence for as long as possible.
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Depending on age appropriateness, I'd say it was a rude way of saying 'go away', or, if I thought it was appropriate, I'd give a more literal definition (this isn't fully theoretical, I've got a 1 year old 'little susie')
If mothers having to talk to their children is really your concern, would you have the same vitrol if his mohawk had said "F Off" or "Eff You!"? The explanation to the curious kid would have to be exactly the same. Or howabout a shirt that said "You suck!"? That term is equally sexually derived.
This isn't meant to be a personal attack, but do realize that
"Think of the children!" is a common appeal to emotion, and can sometime also be classified as a
Thought-terminating cliché. It is a way of arguing against something without using sound logic, and setting up people who argue against you to look insensitive. I know you weren't trying to use a fallacy, but think for a minute what is really offensive about children seeing the word FUCK...Can you really honestly say that children would be offended/harmed/damaged/corrupted by exposure to those for letters in sequence? And if so, what about Screw You? It has the same meaning, will it do the same damage? If not why not?
Incidently, I don't find it angry, vindictive or disrespectful about the word 'fuck', nor do I think it is fully synonymous with the 'sacred act of making love'...my wife and I sometimes make love, and sometimes fuck, and any observer could distinguish the two easily (by both volume and calories burned).
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I'm not faulting anyone for using it in here as this is an adult forum...although I have to say, i'm new and tiptoeing around it as best i can. Sorry but i just can't help feeling uncomfortable with it...although occasionally i do find myself laughing at comments using it.
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Be careful...if you scroll down too far, I've heard there are links to pictures of naked people fucking
