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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
You've said this before, and it's still wrong. Gays have insisted on being permitted to marry, and they have been denied.
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That's not quite true, though. As this one exchange between you and IL goes, he's right and you're wrong. Gays are allowed to marry under the same conditions that others are allowed marriage. There's really no way around that fact. They're denied - wrongly, of course - their preferred version of marriage, but heterosexuals are denied the same.
A better tact is to question why the government bestows special privileged upon one type of committed union and not this other type. Why do certain heterosexual couples get to file jointly but not any homosexual couples? Why can't homosexuals with kids get the same tax breaks that heterosexuals with kids do? Why can't homosexuals arrange for hospital visitation rights as heterosexuals can?
Or alternately, for those who have a partial deal, why is it that heterosexuals get all these perks in one easy package while homosexuals have to jump through hoops?
It's my suspicion that the anti-gay marriage position is ultimately just plain indefensible without resorting to some theocratic perspective (however veiled), but myspaceish mischaracterizations like "how can you deny people the right to love who they love??!?" really help to muddy questions of each side's relative credibility.