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Originally Posted by Aladdin Sane
I'm beginning to think I should have voted for Mr. Obama:...
6. And just this morning (from the NY Times)—
WASHINGTON — President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried, two participants in the private session said.
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It's okay--he's the Messiah, and therefore can do no wrong.
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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru
1. Since when is Afghanistan anything like Iraq?
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It isn't. We could win in Iraq. We can't in Afghanistan, but Obama is too stupid to know that.
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Originally Posted by roachboy
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Yes, the differences are stunning. "Prolonged detention" is what the left has been claiming about GITMO all along. That laughter is sounding just a wee bit shrill these days.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
Obama got skewered by Rachel Maddow on his new policies towards detainees, and rightly so. It's incredibly disappointing that he is not only NOT overturning Bush's policies, but is taking them even further. Completely unconstitutional decisions being made in a speech where he says he wants to follow the letter of the law. Amazing.
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Originally Posted by Derwood
Being concerned with terrorism is fine. Arresting people and detaining them based on something they may do is completely unconstitutional
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Want a link?
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Originally Posted by powerclown
As soon as they announced Robert Gates would be staying on as Defense Secretary, it was apparent the status quo would be maintained.
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You mean BILL Gates? Apparently, Bush's military background prevented him from mistaking his SECDEF for the head of Microsoft.
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Originally Posted by Polar
-- Absolutely true.
But it does not grant habeas corpus to enemy combatants taken on the field of battle, either.
They are not covered by the Geneva Convention, for that matter.
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Wait, the liberals have finally discovered that, after holding their hands over their ears for almost 8 years?
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Originally Posted by samcol
A conservative radio host gets waterboarded and says it's without a doubt torture. What's going on in this video is nothing compared to what goes on in gitmo type places I'm willing to bet. I still find it hard to believe many refer to this as 'enhanced interrogations'.
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So waterboarding THREE people (and preventing another WTC in Los Angeles by doing so) is horrible, but locking up people indefinitely on the basis of what they MIGHT do is perfectly acceptable? You DO know that every US Navy SEAL has been waterboarded, right? I'm not sure, but it might be required of every US Navy pilot, too. Are you also aware that Obama left himself a loophole to do it as well?
indeed.