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Originally Posted by rahl
Yes that's it make snoody comments when someone doesn't agree with your point of view, that is a very mature way to handle it.
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Yes, that's it, take this thread so seriously that even a hint at humor is taken as disrespect and derail the thread. That's a very mature way to handle it.
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Originally Posted by rahl
And my point is a valid one. I was simply stating that two people with the same set of circumstances aren't always going to have the same outcome in life, sometimes people just make bad decisions with their lives. It has nothing to do with external factors.
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Only with poverty it has everything to do with external factors, which you already admitted. Where's the harm in improving poor schools? Who is hurt by that? Who are you fighting for?
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Originally Posted by pan6467
Ahhhh but there it is..... "The best way to pay back a certain community (blacks)."
It doesn't say HELP ALL..... it says pay back one race.
My argument is if you truly are wanting to help ALL, you wouldn't need that little phrase.
I have a feeling the Hispanic community would argue that they are disproportionately in poverty. So could some nationalities, some religions, and so on. ALL have legitimate claims. NOONE in the US should have to live in poverty.
When we add caveats like.... well if we put more into social programs it'll help this ONE group more.... is saying that the others in poverty are not as important. You can claim otherwise but why keep adding that caveat if not to keep focus on that ONE group.
I'm all for social programs with spending restraints and fiscal responsibility. But my question for those who like to focus on just ONE select group is this: What happens if the whites, Hispanics or whatever group in poverty starts succeeding and that ONE (the blacks) doesn't? Were those programs then "racist" and thus we need to do more for the blacks and make those programs race specific because obviously they were racist... others made it out but the blacks were held down yet again.
Do you not see the hole you are digging yourself into?
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There's no hole. You're just plain wrong. This isn't a thread about the Hispanic community, this is a thread about the black community. Deal with it.