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Old 05-19-2009, 07:32 AM   #59 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by Willravel View Post
The fact is that it is not a goal of the Taliban to force Islamic law on the West. What you're suggesting—attacking and killing people that are not a threat because of an unsupported belief—is premeditated murder.
Your position is weak.

I am willing to live in peace with those who respect the right of me and others to practice the religion of their choice, or practice no religion. I will not live in a world bound by Sharia Law. And because I want that freedom, I feel obligated to come to the defense of those who want the same freedom. It doesn't matter if they live next door to me , on the other side of the globe, or in the ME. If the Taliban respects this, there is no conflict. Period, end of story, but they don't.

If I were a free black man in the US in 1860, my freedom would mean little if other black men were still enslaved, and I would feel obligated to fight for freedom of all men.

If, I get your point - that its o.k. for the Taliban to force some people to live under a law that restricts their right to religious choice as long as it is not the west, I think you are wrong.

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Originally Posted by ratbastid View Post
Well, that's true. Tragically, you don't see it as a view. It's The Truth, to you.

You're talking out your ass here, hoss. And you're willing to commit major military effort and sacrifice hundreds or thousands of lives to enforce the conclusion that your ignorance draws you to.
I clearly made an offer, an offer in sincerity. If I need to be educated on the Taliban, Sharia Law or the intent of the Taliban, I am open to that education. However, that opportunity has been met with ridicule, and condescension.

So, yes. I am willing to commit major military effort and sacrifice hundreds or thousands of lives to enforce the conclusion that you claim my ignorance has lead me to. So, if there are people like me in the world and you have the opportunity to influence us with your knowledge, but choose instead to simply call us ignorant, who really has the problem? Who is really at fault?

I have laid out my position. All the Taliban has to do is prove their intent is not to do what I think they want to do. If they can't or don't want to, then the path to conflict is clear.

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Originally Posted by Derwood View Post
I don't see how anything the Taliban has done or is doing is in any way impinging on YOUR freedom, Ace.
See the above.

And to be clear, I am not suggesting we take any extreme measure today, however, the path we are on is one that will not end favorably. Wise people need to intervene, or step aside and let the matter be resolved.
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