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					Originally Posted by  roachboy
					 
				 
				ace---my arguments were clear.  i have neither the time nor the inclination to screw about with you picking through the various straw men etc..i'll leave that for folk who are perhaps nicer than i am.  it's better that way.  trust me on this. 
			
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 Trust you?  It is better that way?  Let's not get carried away.  
Being humble has never been a strong point for me, but I have been working on it.  Let me simply say, for the record your arguments have been anything but clear.  Your last post was a confused conflation of many random bits of information used to promote a baseless premise.
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					Originally Posted by  ratbastid
					 
				 
				The terrists have already won, then. 
			
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 No.  Some want to restrict freedom.  However, in my view defending freedom is not a restriction of freedom, it is a prerequisite for freedom.  The fight continues.