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Shauk · 05-18-2009, 12:50 AM

Honestly, I don't really see the big deal. The photos leaked anyway.

I understand, and am a proponent for freedom of information, but I also understand the implications behind such information as this, amongst other examples, that ultimately create a detrimental path for evolution of history.

Ignorance is bliss, sure, but yes, it's also just that... ignorance.

Admittedly this scenario leaves me somewhat conflicted on my own views.
Maybe I'm just jaded but the proof is in our history, this nation spent 8 years throwing the blame of war crimes and draconian policies at Bush hoping that something would incite the people to rise up, but I've lost my faith in politics "for the people" or a government "for the people, by the people" cuz it's all a big pile of bull. 8 years of protesting, petitions, exposes, documentaries, showing much worse guild than this action by Obama and nothing came of it, he served out his term, he goes back to Texas, unaccountable for the mess he left America in.

No mistake to be made here, no nitpicking in the grey area, I don't think you'll find anyone who can honestly say that Bush implemented policies that left the USA economically stronger than ever. One such as myself has felt the impact directly as I got laid off and am searching for work in an economy where the businesses are wondering if they can even afford to pay their employees a fair living wage.

So we get back to the subject of the disclosure of these photos, and I'm left going "you know what? I don't really give a f*ck"

Everything in the media is political hyperbole and the people are powerless to overturn presidential orders, powerless to demand accountability.

Though not to confuse you, my blase attitude isn't the result of feeling defeated by 8 years of Bush. It's more over the fact that I feel releasing the photos through an "official" channel such as the white house really does nothing for our country.

Scenario: Pictures are released
Result: Moral Outrage by the citizens of the US
Secondary Result: Everything stays the same.
Feared result by Obama: Moral Outrage by citizens NOT of the US, and retaliatory actions against the lives of Americans domestic or abroad.

So to me, it's moot. Released or not, nothing changed other than people have their sense of entitlement, more fuel for their vehicle of moral outrage, more reasons to hate the previous administration which this happened under. *shrug*

05-18-2009, 12:50 AM	#81 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	Honestly, I don't really see the big deal. The photos leaked anyway. I understand, and am a proponent for freedom of information, but I also understand the implications behind such information as this, amongst other examples, that ultimately create a detrimental path for evolution of history. Ignorance is bliss, sure, but yes, it's also just that... ignorance. Admittedly this scenario leaves me somewhat conflicted on my own views. Maybe I'm just jaded but the proof is in our history, this nation spent 8 years throwing the blame of war crimes and draconian policies at Bush hoping that something would incite the people to rise up, but I've lost my faith in politics "for the people" or a government "for the people, by the people" cuz it's all a big pile of bull. 8 years of protesting, petitions, exposes, documentaries, showing much worse guild than this action by Obama and nothing came of it, he served out his term, he goes back to Texas, unaccountable for the mess he left America in. No mistake to be made here, no nitpicking in the grey area, I don't think you'll find anyone who can honestly say that Bush implemented policies that left the USA economically stronger than ever. One such as myself has felt the impact directly as I got laid off and am searching for work in an economy where the businesses are wondering if they can even afford to pay their employees a fair living wage. So we get back to the subject of the disclosure of these photos, and I'm left going "you know what? I don't really give a fck" Everything in the media is political hyperbole and the people are powerless to overturn presidential orders, powerless to demand accountability. Though not to confuse you, my blase attitude isn't the result of feeling defeated by 8 years of Bush. It's more over the fact that I feel releasing the photos through an "official" channel such as the white house really does nothing for our country. Scenario: Pictures are released Result: Moral Outrage by the citizens of the US Secondary Result: Everything stays the same. Feared result by Obama: Moral Outrage by citizens NOT of the US, and retaliatory actions against the lives of Americans domestic or abroad. So to me, it's moot. Released or not, nothing changed other than people have their sense of entitlement, more fuel for their vehicle of moral outrage, more reasons to hate the previous administration which this happened under. shrug* Last edited by Shauk; 05-18-2009 at 12:52 AM..