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Originally Posted by powerclown
In substance (the rhetoric is differnt, granted), I don't see too much reversal from Bush's foreign policies in these particular areas, and certainly nowhere near on the level of the CHANGE antiwar platform he ran and won on. Feel free to point out those reversals though, I would be curious to read them.
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His platform was against the war in Iraq. He was always very clear that he was for increased presence of force in Afghanistan. It fits your inter-cranial narrative better to have him be a failed antiwar flowerchild, I know, but it's not consistent with what the man SAID.
He's announced plans to close Guantanamo.
He's ended extraordinary rendition.
He's said we're not waterboarding anymore.
The list goes on, but you won't pay it any attention, so why bother.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetic
The only thing I detest about these photos here now is that they are over sized and that they reformat how the thread is producing causing a side scroll bar and breaking up the CSS.
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Sorry the evidence of the moral trashing of your country is causing you to have to move your hand a little bit.
That is EXACTLY what I mean when I say that as a nation, we're not confronting reality about this thing. If we really dealt with how much our moral standing, the thing that makes us great and separates us from other nations, got flushed down the toilet, and really dealt with our own complicity in that, then something would have to change about how we operate in the world. But as long as we can have this be a back-of-consciousness nuisance, we never have to do that, and we're guaranteed more of the same.