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try to open up the discussion more, psychologist--frame some question or questions that you want to pursue.
the op is a bit of a rune--closed in on itself.
my position:
the ontological proof is explicitly a tautology.
you can't say it without using the word: that god is is a tautology. the idea was that if god is understood as containing within himself/his mind all categories including being, then the claim that god is, which involves the last category, is strictly tautological (premise is contained in the conclusion).
so the circularity of thinking isn't exactly a new revelation.
what makes you think that faith is a matter of logic?
much theology is about the idea that faith *can* be grounded logically, but that starts from faith and works to logic, not the other way around.
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a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle
spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear
it make you sick.
-kamau brathwaite
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