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Old 05-13-2009, 08:12 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Xerxys View Post
Dude, I'm an angry teen... and I'm only 21

I'm a misanthrope, I believe that 'other' people are to blame for many things that go wrong simply because they refuse to see beyond their point of view.

I believe people are assholes until I meet them and hence determine they're not.

I mean, in my experience (This might generate some sence of plausibility of sorts ) interacting with someone who at first comes off as an ass ... is an ass. The idea that, "you have to get to know him first, he really is a good guy inside" is fuckin' stupid.
Fuck! There! That's all I wanted. Not "I am this; take it!" Just a reason and a description. Thanks buddy.

(keep in mind that "you" is the "general you"; a message to all misanthropes)

It's an interesting approach. Here is where I differ and it is quite a difference. I approach life and all matter as if it doesn't exist until I've distinguished it's existence.

For instance: if I were in a square room with a door but I had no concept of a door I wouldn't see it. It would simply be part of the wall. Our mind creates natural patterns and general rules that apply to all similar objects; door equates opening to a separate space. Without ever seeing or hearing of or touching or thinking about a door, a door simply does not exist.

Where we differ, I think, is our view of humanities unpredictable and often confusing nature. You view it as a problem; that until someone can prove their worth they are viewed as an asshole - some unpredictable, unreliable, stupid as fuck asshole. I see them as individuals: all individually non-existent. And my purpose is to diligently observe and learn about them so they take shape. A person is simply a wall, to use my former analogy, until I figure out their purpose (do you know what I mean?).

And that purpose is subject to change; it has no limitations or restrictions. VERY basically, that is "living presently".

Here is why I'd rather live with my philosophy than yours. I can control my actions, thoughts, and emotions; like you and every other capable, intelligent, emotionally sound human being. There are no outside variables because my science creates an equation in which everything is applicable defeating the purpose of definition or specificity. To be clearer: I'm not looking for anything specific (ie: where you are waiting for them to prove their worth) so all I need to do is watch and learn and, for lack of a better word, mingle; take part.

Misanthropy, if I understand it from your definition, depends completely on everyone else. You've removed yourself from the equation all together. You are, ironically, putting the power in the hands of the people who, in your opinion, don't deserve it. Your happiness completely depends upon the people who are stupid as fuck. That's kind of shitty for you. Not shitty OF you (just being clear so I'm not flamed).

Perhaps the most troubling thing about it is (and this is where I kept citing ignorance, and I'm sorry if that offended) that your predetermination of humanity leaves you with a prejudice. You have all ready prejudged EVERY living being as something not worthy of said life which means you are less likely to be willing to understand it (am I right?). Like Mart said, it's like wearing "Flaw Goggles". If you are unwilling to understand it, while also waiting for it to prove it's worth (or, rather, give you a reason to understand it), understanding becomes borderline impossible; you create a cyclical behavior in which you refuse to understand something until it proves itself, which in turn leaves it impossible for them to prove themselves. Ignoring possibility and being closed off to information is, to me, the definition of ignorance and that's what this comes off as.

Again, I am not saying YOU are indeed ignorant. But if this isn't ignorance, then it's close. And that is shitty OF you. It's incredibly presumptuous and leaves it impossible for others, and yourself, to succeed or execute their/your life to their fullest potential. Labeling restricts. What's worse is the label is made up; something they haven't even earned. I could understand if - to bring up the raped little girl situation - you wanted to hate a guy for raping a little girl. But to meet a guy with the assumption that he is more likely to do that then be a great guy is kind of sick and it kind of insults me.

I'm not inciting another fight; just sharing my opinion.

Oh, and ZERAPH. Just bolded to see if you'd read it all. Because you should. It might make me seem like less of an asshole.
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