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Willravel · 05-13-2009, 08:53 AM

how do you think the obama administration is going to change american policy toward israel?
They aren't going to do much. I suspect we'll take a middle of the road position, where we kinda hint to Israel that he might, maybe, sorta, kinda consider a two state solution, but say it so softly that Israel may not even hear it.
what direction do you think the administration *should* move in?
An immediate peace treaty (not just a ceasefire) halting hostilities will need to be signed right off the bat, with real consequences for breaking said treaty.
For Israel: Revert to 1967 borders, stop supplying Israel with arms and send in nuclear inspectors.
For Palestine: In exchange for the reversion to 1967 borders, Hamas will be held responsible for any rocket fire or gun fire into Israel or attacks on Israeli citizens. After a moment's breath to settle into old and legal national boundaries, we'll need to get Palestine back on a road to stability. This means allowing all food and medical supplies to move freely into Palestine. The obvious course of action is performance based lifting of the embargo. We, the "international community" (US, EU, UN and Russia) will set goals for stability in Palestine, such as developing infrastructure and certain amounts of time without attacks on Israel. Each time they meet a goal, we end the embargo on something. Call it socioeconomic positive reinforcement. The hope is that, after goods start to flow back into Palestine and poverty begins to shrink, the country will become a great deal more stable.
what outcomes do you see as desirable for the region?
Personally, I'd like to see Jerusalem made into international soil. The place is a powder keg and no one country should have control over it.

I'd also like to see Palestinians given their state so that Israel's neighbors run out of excuses to call for it's destruction. If Palestine is free and is becoming a stable and reliable nation and Iran is still calling for Israel's destruction, we get to call bullshit.

Finally, I'd like to see Zionism die out in my lifetime. It's radical religious fundamentalism and it has no place in the 21st century.

05-13-2009, 08:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	how do you think the obama administration is going to change american policy toward israel? They aren't going to do much. I suspect we'll take a middle of the road position, where we kinda hint to Israel that he might, maybe, sorta, kinda consider a two state solution, but say it so softly that Israel may not even hear it. *what direction do you think the administration should* move in?** An immediate peace treaty (not just a ceasefire) halting hostilities will need to be signed right off the bat, with real consequences for breaking said treaty. For Israel: Revert to 1967 borders, stop supplying Israel with arms and send in nuclear inspectors. For Palestine: In exchange for the reversion to 1967 borders, Hamas will be held responsible for any rocket fire or gun fire into Israel or attacks on Israeli citizens. After a moment's breath to settle into old and legal national boundaries, we'll need to get Palestine back on a road to stability. This means allowing all food and medical supplies to move freely into Palestine. The obvious course of action is performance based lifting of the embargo. We, the "international community" (US, EU, UN and Russia) will set goals for stability in Palestine, such as developing infrastructure and certain amounts of time without attacks on Israel. Each time they meet a goal, we end the embargo on something. Call it socioeconomic positive reinforcement. The hope is that, after goods start to flow back into Palestine and poverty begins to shrink, the country will become a great deal more stable. what outcomes do you see as desirable for the region? Personally, I'd like to see Jerusalem made into international soil. The place is a powder keg and no one country should have control over it. I'd also like to see Palestinians given their state so that Israel's neighbors run out of excuses to call for it's destruction. If Palestine is free and is becoming a stable and reliable nation and Iran is still calling for Israel's destruction, we get to call bullshit. Finally, I'd like to see Zionism die out in my lifetime. It's radical religious fundamentalism and it has no place in the 21st century.